Favorite Tone Poems...of DEATH!

Started by Cato, January 07, 2015, 03:44:41 PM

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Cato

 ;)    Okay, so...

Today on the radio I heard a fairly good performance of Rachmaninov's Isle of the Dead by the Detroit Symphony Orchestra and Leonard Slatkin.

I began to think of other tone-poems where Death is a major idea: Tod und Verklaerung and Ein Heldenleben by Richard Strauss came to mind of course, as did Schoenberg's Pelleas und Melisande.

Then there were several by Liszt: Héroïde funèbre, Tasso, and From the Cradle to the Grave.

I suppose Tchaikovsky's Francesca da Rimini which depicts the murder and entry into Hell of the adulterous lovers, and Romeo and Juliet could be included.  And Hamlet by both Tchaikovsky and Liszt would fit as well.  The Swan of Tuonela by Sibelius must be on the favorite list.  A possible stretch is Schumann's (and Tchaikovsky's?) Manfred works.

Le Chasseur Maudit by Cesar Franck does not deal specifically with Death, but is not far away from it!  0:)

I am sure YOU have many others!   8)

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Fagotterdämmerung

   Is Saint-Saëns' Danse Macabre too obvious a choice?  :laugh:

   Richard Strauss's Tod und Verklärung comes to mind too, though I realize he's not too popular around here.

   It's easier for me to think of death scenes within tone poems:

  ...Marche au Supplice from Symphonie Fantastique...
  ...Saturn, the Bringer of Old Age from The Planets...
  ...a couple other times in other Strauss tone poems: Till Eulenspiegel and Don Juan ...

Cato

Quote from: Fagotterdämmerung on January 07, 2015, 04:20:50 PM
   Is Saint-Saëns' Danse Macabre too obvious a choice?  :laugh:

   Richard Strauss's Tod und Verklärung comes to mind too, though I realize he's not too popular around here.

   It's easier for me to think of death scenes within tone poems:

  ...Marche au Supplice from Symphonie Fantastique...
  ...Saturn, the Bringer of Old Age from The Planets...
  ...a couple other times in other Strauss tone poems: Till Eulenspiegel and Don Juan ...

No, in fact I had thought of those in passing.

Quote from: James on January 07, 2015, 04:25:22 PM
Richard Wagner, Siegfried's Death & Funeral March
Richard Wagner, Tristan & Isolde Prelude And Love-Death
Charles Gounod, Funeral March of a Marionette
Modest Mussorgsky, Night on Bald Mountain
Gustav Mahler, Totenfeier
Maurice Ravel, Pavane for a Dead Princess
Karlheinz Stockhausen, Lucifer's Dance
Pierre Boulez, Rituel


Great choices: the Mahler was another one that flitted through the mind.
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Cato

"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Jo498

Suk: Asrael
Janaceks Taras Bulba ends with the deaths of the protagonist, but it's probably not "of/about death"
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The new erato

Reger's Toteninsel deserves a mention alongside those already mentioned. Liszt's Von der Wiege bis zum Grabe perhaps also, depsite not being one of his strongest.

pjme

can I add Chostakovitch' Stenka Razin! A great cantata....

P.

Cato

Quote from: pjme on January 08, 2015, 01:08:32 AM
can I add Chostakovitch' Stenka Razin! A great cantata....

P.

Another good choice!

Quote from: Jo498 on January 07, 2015, 11:45:28 PM

Janaceks Taras Bulba ends with the deaths of the protagonist, but it's probably not "of/about death"

Close enough!  Similarly, Gliere's Third Symphony ends with the death of the hero Ilya Murometz.
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The new erato

Shostakovich 14th symphony concerns itself exclusively on aspects of death.

Frank Martin's Die Weise von Liebe und Tod des Cornets very much the same, and the Orfeo version under Zagrosek is pretty much my favorite disc of anything ever.

Karl Henning

Quote from: Fagotterdämmerung on January 07, 2015, 04:20:50 PM
   It's easier for me to think of death scenes within tone poems:

  ...Saturn, the Bringer of Old Age from The Planets...

Hang on;  you consider that there is representation of Death (rather than Old Age) in that movement?
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Cato

Quote from: The new erato on January 08, 2015, 03:51:41 AM
Shostakovich 14th symphony concerns itself exclusively on aspects of death.

Frank Martin's Die Weise von Liebe und Tod des Cornets very much the same, and the Orfeo version under Zagrosek is pretty much my favorite disc of anything ever.

Wow!  I will need to look into that work, after such a great recommendation!
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pjme

Do listen also to Martin's last (major) work, the short cantata ( a "cantate de chambre")  " Et la vie l'emporta" , for alto, baritone, small chorus and small orchestra.

Imploration (aus Maurice Zundels "La Complainte du Malade"); Combat (Martin Luthers Übersetzung der 4. Strophe von "Christ lag in Todes Banden"); Offrande (Übersetzung eines Briefes, irrtümlich dem Maler Fra Angelico zugeschrieben)

Deeply moving, in my humble opinion, and written literaly "facing death".


Es war ein wunderlicher Krieg,
Da Tod und Leben rungen,
Das Leben behielt den Sieg,
Es hat den Tod verschlungen.
Die Schrift hat verkündigt das,
Wie ein Tod den andern fraß,
Ein Spott aus dem Tod ist worden.
Halleluja!


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Rinaldo

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springrite

Mahler 9, if you agree that it is a farewell to life.

If not, then Suk's Asrael would be my choice.
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

Jo498

The stanza from the Luther chorale (probably also the most impressive stanza in the Bach cantata BVW 4, I do not know the Frank Martin piece) makes me wonder whether Donne's sonnet "Death be not proud" has been set to music.

Of course if we start with vocal music concerning death there are many more pieces to consider...
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Abuelo Igor

Quote from: Cato on January 07, 2015, 03:44:41 PMI began to think of other tone-poems where Death is a major idea: Tod und Verklaerung and Ein Heldenleben by Richard Strauss

I have no problem with the first, but I fail to see the connection with the second. Maybe you could explain a little.
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jochanaan

To be precise, some of the aforementioned works, notably Danse macabre, are not concerned with death but with undeath. :)

And there are any number of funeral marches that qualify, notably Beethoven's Marcia funebre from Symphony #3, and Mozart's Masonic Funeral Music. 8)
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North Star

Dvořák's late ones, based on the folk poems of Kytice z pověstí národních are certainly connected with death - The Wild Dove, The Golden Spinning Wheel, The Noon Witch, The Water Goblin.
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Fagotterdämmerung

Quote from: karlhenning on January 08, 2015, 04:26:30 AM
Hang on;  you consider that there is representation of Death (rather than Old Age) in that movement?

One leading to the other, certainly. At least that's the impression the music always left me with.
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