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Blind comparison: Bach Cello Suites
« on: January 26, 2015, 06:58:02 AM »
OK, well I'm aware that there's a blind Mozart comparison somewhere down the page, and I really don't intend to interfere with that when it becomes a going concern, but ...

I've got a Bach Cello Suites blind test ready, this would be a 'miDi-blind' (by 'midi' I mean between 12 and 24 runners and riders).
In fact Round 1 will be 3 groups of 6, I hope.
Thing is, I've got 30 here - so I'm proposing a Prologue round, very short clips, very quick assessment, no messing about, just to knock those 30 down to 18.  Once that's done, we can review where the Mozart is at, before continuing with Round 1 proper.

3 groups, 10 in each.  Each sample is about 3 minutes of music, comprising extracts from the Courante and Bourrees of Suite 4 in E flat major.
All I need to know really is one of:
Yes - I'll want to hear more of this one
OK - I wouldn't rule it out
No - this would never make my short list.
To be honest 3 minutes is more than enough for this - probably 30 seconds is all you'll need!  For sanity's sake, I advise not trying to do all 10 in one sitting, even though it is only about 35 minutes in total.

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Re: Blind comparison: Bach Cello Suites
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2015, 07:00:39 AM »
Yes, thanks.
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Re: Blind comparison: Bach Cello Suites
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2015, 07:07:30 AM »
Count me in!

By the way, Mozart was cancelled, so no scheduling problems.
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Re: Blind comparison: Bach Cello Suites
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2015, 08:34:38 AM »
I'm in.
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Re: Blind comparison: Bach Cello Suites
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2015, 10:12:07 AM »
Yes, please! :)

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Re: Blind comparison: Bach Cello Suites
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2015, 11:27:25 AM »
I'm in.

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Re: Blind comparison: Bach Cello Suites
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2015, 12:23:22 PM »
aukhawk, please count me in as well. Thanks.

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Re: Blind comparison: Bach Cello Suites
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2015, 01:20:54 PM »
Sounds like fun. I'm in!  Thank you!  :)
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Re: Blind comparison: Bach Cello Suites
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2015, 02:16:35 PM »
Of course, count me in.
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Re: Blind comparison: Bach Cello Suites
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2015, 02:26:23 PM »
Thanks everyone!  Links gone out to all those who've replied so far.  I really enjoyed compiling these, I hope you enjoy listening to them.

Round 1 proper, when we get there, will comprise around 13 minutes of music from Suites 3 and 2. 
Round 2 will probably concentrate on Suite 6. 
The final will probably be the entire Suite 5.

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Re: Blind comparison: Bach Cello Suites
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2015, 06:20:35 PM »
Waves hand wildly to make it clear he wants in...

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Re: Blind comparison: Bach Cello Suites
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2015, 06:23:05 PM »
It's been a while, so I was starved for a blind listening! :) No comments, since it's really a pre-vote. But I did vote out the non-cello, although for musical reasons (which was a boon, because it will be difficult to compare the non-cellos, though it would be interesting to hear them).

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Ok - 1,4,6,7 and 8
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Re: Blind comparison: Bach Cello Suites
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2015, 06:37:24 PM »
Please!

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Re: Blind comparison: Bach Cello Suites
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2015, 10:41:21 PM »
i'm in

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Re: Blind comparison: Bach Cello Suites
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2015, 01:33:43 AM »
It's been a while, so I was starved for a blind listening! :)

Little more than an amuse-bouche.  Hopefully it won't be too long before the fish course arrives!

Fair choices Neal, thankyou.

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Re: Blind comparison: Bach Cello Suites
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2015, 01:42:10 AM »
Aukhawk,
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Re: Blind comparison: Bach Cello Suites
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2015, 01:53:42 AM »
No, more fun if they go straight in to this thread I think.  Neal's above were put in to white text to conceal them, but that's all optional as far as I'm concerned.

What I would be interested to hear from others, is, in the next rounds do you want the 'blind history' of each concealed, so that effectively in each round each remaining cellist has to prove themselves again - or shall I just say, like "F4 (was A1)" so that you can build up more of a picture?
Personally, with 36+ movements to go at and we won't hear them all by any means, I don't see anything wrong with the 2nd approach.  What do people think?

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Re: Blind comparison: Bach Cello Suites
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2015, 03:57:40 AM »

Round 1 proper, when we get there, will comprise around 13 minutes of music from Suites 3 and 2. 
Round 2 will probably concentrate on Suite 6. 
The final will probably be the entire Suite 5.

Very well organized, I think.

What will be the deadline for round 1?
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Re: Blind comparison: Bach Cello Suites
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2015, 04:24:06 AM »
yes - B2, B7, B5,
ok - B4,
no - B1, B3, B6, B8, B9, B10

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Re: Blind comparison: Bach Cello Suites
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2015, 06:13:38 AM »
Ruthless axeman!!  ;)

What will be the deadline for round 1?

If you mean this 'Prologue', well hopefully the end of the coming weekend, and I'll post the results on Monday.  We'll see how it goes though.