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« Reply #6820 on: Today at 03:41:35 AM »
I don't really know why, but testing in DK is still 200,000 - 250,000 PCRs + 200,000 quick tests, totally about 7-8% of the population per day, catching a lot of cases. The share of patients hospitalized with other diseases and a 'secondary', less important omicron is going up everywhere, it's at least 27% here. ICU corona numbers are dropping quite a lot, in spite of the many identified cases (33,000 yesterday) and hospitals say that they are less strained. A lot of the ICUs tend to be 'old' Delta cases. So the talk here in DK is about loosening restrictions further; but some people are warning against too much haste. The earlier guarantee of 30 days maximum for treatment of any disease has now also been re-introduced, due to less strain on the system, but it's going to take time to implement.


EDIT: and 38,800 today ... but hospitalizations still not on the level of the 2020-2021 winter, people are there for a shorter time, and ICUs about 1/3 of that winter.
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« Reply #6821 on: Today at 04:13:59 AM »
It is a little odd that Denmark is still growing in cases and hospital admissions when they started same time as UK and are more boosted as well...

https://twitter.com/chrischirp/status/1483752123775041540

Just a hunch: more testing and less prior infections?

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« Reply #6822 on: Today at 04:43:40 AM »
News from Israel

Finance minister calls for cancellation of COVID vaccine ‘Green Pass’

Finance Minister Avigdor Liberman calls for an end to the widespread usage of the “Green Pass” proof of COVID vaccination to enter certain locations.

“There is no medical or epidemiological logic in the Green Pass, many experts agree,” says Liberman. “There is, however, direct harm to the economy, to daily operations and a not insignificant contribution to daily panic among the public.”

Liberman says he is working with “all the authorities” in order to get rid of the Green Pass and “maintain a normal life routine for all of us.”

Currently, admittance to many public and private facilities requires a Green Pass vaccination card, which is only valid following a booster shot or within six months of a second vaccine dose.

Initial data shows that the current widespread Omicron variant is able to bypass the vaccine in many cases.
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« Reply #6823 on: Today at 05:07:09 AM »
Some recent news re China:

"About 2000 hamsters will be killed after traces of COVID-19 were found on 11 linked to the Little Boss pet shop. Hong Kong authorities claim the imported hamsters could have led to the infection of two employees of the store. All the other animals in the shop will also be euthanised as a precaution."

Article from The Age (Australia):  https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/pets-the-latest-sacrifice-in-china-s-attempt-to-hold-fortress-covid-zero-20220119-p59pg2.html

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« Reply #6824 on: Today at 05:21:32 AM »
News from the Doom & Gloom Department:

WHO says omicron won’t be last Covid variant as global cases surge by 20% in a week

Dr. Bruce Aylward, a senior WHO official, warned high levels of transmission give the virus more opportunity to replicate and mutate, raising the risk that a new variant will emerge.


Buckle up for another ride in the coming year...

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« Reply #6825 on: Today at 05:23:43 AM »
News from the Doom & Gloom Department:

WHO says omicron won’t be last Covid variant as global cases surge by 20% in a week

Buckle up for another ride in the coming year...

In the last two years WHO made lots of contradictory statements from the very beginning. They have zero credibility in my book.
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« Reply #6826 on: Today at 05:31:15 AM »
Apparently at least 12 European nations reporting record-breaking numbers of infections today

(Denmark, Croatia, Switzerland, Slovenia, Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Hungary, Germany, Italy, France).

https://twitter.com/TWMCLtd/status/1483789813396516868
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« Reply #6827 on: Today at 05:32:43 AM »
In the last two years WHO made lots of contradictory statements from the very beginning. They have zero credibility in my book.

I think another real risk now is "Covid fatigue", which will lead to dismissing caution and ignoring bad news. There seems already be a downturn in the number of people that follow the rules and turn up for another shot.

Worst case scenario would be if a new variant strikes when most have decided that they dont give a sh%t anymore.

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« Reply #6828 on: Today at 07:04:17 AM »
I think another real risk now is "Covid fatigue", which will lead to dismissing caution and ignoring bad news. There seems already be a downturn in the number of people that follow the rules and turn up for another shot.

Worst case scenario would be if a new variant strikes when most have decided that they dont give a sh%t anymore.

Well, the world can't live the remainder of the century from lockdown to lockdown and from booster to booster. You can't condemn people for being fed up with all that.

There are obvious signals that some countries are considering, even preparing, the transition from pandemic to endemic and the return to normalcy. The more of them and the quicker the transition, the better.
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« Reply #6829 on: Today at 07:40:21 AM »
Pfizer CEO: Virus will be here for years but this may be last wave with restrictions

Pfizer boss Albert Bourla said Monday that although the “most likely scenario” is that coronavirus will be circulating for many years to come, he believes the current wave of infections will be the final one that requires restrictions.

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« Reply #6830 on: Today at 08:02:28 AM »
I think another real risk now is "Covid fatigue", which will lead to dismissing caution and ignoring bad news. There seems already be a downturn in the number of people that follow the rules and turn up for another shot.

Worst case scenario would be if a new variant strikes when most have decided that they dont give a sh%t anymore.

Also a class divide. White collar workers/upper middle class people can work at home or have a paid/non-paid leave. Wage earners must go out and work to make a living.

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« Reply #6831 on: Today at 08:26:47 AM »
Well, the world can't live the remainder of the century from lockdown to lockdown and from booster to booster.

I don’t think it will come to that. But realistically, it seems the advent of one or two more "problematic" variants cannot be ruled out. At least the WHO does not. This would keep us occupied for at least another year or so - but not the rest of the century.

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You can't condemn people for being fed up with all that.

I'm not. Who isn't fed up? Hell, I was fed up with all of this a long time ago!  8)

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There are obvious signals that some countries are considering, even preparing, the transition from pandemic to endemic and the return to normalcy. The more of them and the quicker the transition, the better.

Well, it all depends on whether Omicron will be the last problematic variant or not.

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Re: Coronavirus thread
« Reply #6832 on: Today at 08:47:03 AM »
Czech singer dies after catching Covid intentionally.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60050996