Started by Maciek, April 12, 2007, 03:43:03 PM
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Quote from: Dm on January 08, 2008, 06:47:31 PMAre there other Penderecki symphonies that you really like?
Quote from: edward on January 08, 2008, 06:51:35 PMNot hugely. The Third has a superb central slow movement and is probably my favourite of the seven (I don't think there's a 6th yet). I do really like the Second, mostly because it's almost comically overwrought yet done with great flair, but I don't think it's particularly 'great' music.
Quote from: Dm on January 08, 2008, 06:42:28 PMDoes anyone have an opinion of Penderecki's VIOLIN CONCERTI (1 or 2)?
Quote from: Mark G. Simon on January 09, 2008, 04:48:52 AMIn fact everything Penderecki has written since the mid 70s is made up entirely of chromatic scale fragments, a few notes up, then a few notes down, a few notes up again, and so on. Sometimes he does it better than others, but it's always the same basic thing.
Quote from: MDL on January 09, 2008, 04:39:45 AMHas anyone heard his second opera, Paradise Lost? I haven't, but I get the impression that's one lo-o-o-o-ong slog.
Quote from: Maciek on January 09, 2008, 05:21:49 AMActually, I loved it. But that might have been partly due to the great production. Also - it was a long time ago...I think some of his later stuff is more than OK ("some" meaning "very little" in this context 0:)). (Besides, his early music wasn't exactly the most complicated stuff ever written either... ) Of those later pieces, I especially like the Credo. And those movements of the 8th that I've heard were surprisingly good too. What I find odd though is that just a couple of months ago, back in October 2007, the man said in an interview he still hadn't finished his 8th - had only half of it completed - and didn't know when it would be done. But the Naxos recording features Drabowicz who died in March 2007! What the hell is happening? Also: the recording is only about 6 minutes longer than the performance I posted. But during that interview he clearly stated that what is about to be performed is very far from completion, as the whole thing would be more than twice as long (the interview I'm talking about was given right before that performance). I'm suspecting foul play: this has happened before with his Polish Requiem which was "first" recorded by Polskie Nagrania but in the next couple of years he continued adding on to it, and the final piece was much longer...
Quote from: Maciek on January 31, 2008, 02:25:17 PMHope you guys appreciate having a seer on board!
Quote from: Maciek on January 31, 2008, 02:25:17 PM He did mention the 6th Symphony! (He is not planning to write more than 9 of them, BTW.)
Quote from: MDL on February 02, 2008, 03:52:12 AMThe performance of the Dies Irae is great
Quote from: Maciek on February 04, 2008, 10:48:07 AMYou mean "on its own" or are you comparing it to a specific different performance?
Quote from: Maciek on January 31, 2008, 02:25:17 PMHope you guys appreciate having a seer on board! Today in Warsaw a new, expanded version of the 8th Symphony was given its premiere performance. This new version is not the definitive one yet. The composer repeated in an interview that the final version will be about 70 minutes long. The current version is in 3 large movements - it has a new, slightly expanded and re-orchestrated finale + an additional new Eschenbach setting.Other news (from the same interview): the composer is currently working on a Horn Concerto. He is also getting ready to write a 3rd String Quartet (I always considered Der unterbrochene Gedanke to be that but apparently I was wrong). He did mention the 6th Symphony! (He is not planning to write more than 9 of them, BTW.) The 6th is probably going to be a one-movement piece, an elegy for a dying forest. He is probably going to get it done once the concerto and quartet are finished. He is also thinking about two opera projects, both of them generally conceived quite a long time ago: Fedra and an opera for children.
Quote from: MDL on February 05, 2008, 01:22:27 AMI've got two other recordings, conducted by Czyz and Kawalla. You're a real Penderecki enthusiast, so I assume you have both of those already! The Wit is better recorded than either. If it's not quite as intense as the Czyz, it's much better than the boxy, unatmospheric Kawalla.
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