Started by San Antone, March 25, 2015, 10:56:00 AM
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Quote from: karlhenning on March 25, 2015, 11:06:43 AMThere is Threni, of course . . . it's one of the odd casualties of the Naxos re-issue practice that Robt Craft's wonderful recording originally on Koch is not presently available.
Quote from: karlhenning on March 25, 2015, 11:09:23 AMThe Ginastera is lovely, if quite brief.[asin]B001IYA1IS[/asin]
Quote from: sanantonio on March 25, 2015, 11:11:22 AMWonderful late work. Compared to most of his other works, this one does not seem to receive many recordings. At least that is my impression.
Quote from: sanantonio on March 25, 2015, 11:12:23 AMThis one I have not heard, but have heard of. I will look for it on Spotify, if available there, and listen soon.
Quote from: Brewski on March 25, 2015, 11:20:33 AMThough I am not familiar with many Lamentations settings, the Krenek is an austere, fantastic piece. I've been lucky to hear it live - which may never happen again, since it's extremely difficult to perform.Will be interested in comments on works by other composers. --Bruce
Quote from: JCBuckley on March 25, 2015, 11:48:25 AMI strongly recommend this:
Quote from: Draško on March 25, 2015, 11:56:02 AMLecons de tenebres, Holly Week settings of Lamentationes of Jeremiah, were very popular in French baroque. Most often they were intimate chamber settings for few voices and basso continuo (but still with very virtuosic vocal writing) and best known (rightly) are by Delalande, Francois Couperin and Charpentier. There is one other I'd like to mention, bit different stylistically set for larger forces (but still intimate sounding), with simpler less florid vocal writing by Jean Gilles. Perhaps showing differences in taste and influences between province (Gilles) and capital (others). There was a lovely recording of Gilles by Herve Niquet/Le Concert Spirituel on Accord, not sure if it's still in print.
Quote from: sanantonio on March 25, 2015, 12:06:49 PMI have not heard the Jean Gilles work. Is this the one you were thinking of?
Quote from: Draško on March 25, 2015, 12:15:13 PMThat's the one, but there is later re-issue that might be cheaper to find. This one:http://www.amazon.de/Motets-Saint-Baptiste-Trois-Lamentations/dp/B00004XT1JAlso, Delalande disc JCBuckley mentioned exist as readily available reissue:http://www.amazon.com/Lecons-Tenebres-M-Lalande/dp/B000NQDE86
Quote from: sanantonio on March 25, 2015, 11:58:06 AMInteresting that the two composers we've focused on so far have been Stravinsky and Krenek. When Stravinsky was looking around for information about serial/12-tone composing, one source he used more than others was Krenek's little book, Studies in Counterpoint. Stravinsky was impressed with a technique Krenek used (mainly in the Lamentations) of rotating a the two hexachords of a series (61,52,43) and transposing the starting note to the same pitch degree.For example if the first six notes of the series were C-D-E-F-G-A, the rotations would bea-c-g-d-f-ee-a-f-c-d-gg-e-d-a-c-ff-g-c-e-a-dd-f-a-g-e-cBringing us back to where we started with c-d-e-f-g-aI am not sure if Stravinsky used this kind of thing in Threni, but he was influenced by Krenek's work, which was published shortly before Threni was begun.
Quote from: karlhenning on March 27, 2015, 04:44:48 AMLast night, and at last, I began to spend time with the de Victoria Lamentations (years ago, I had had the St Paul's Choir sing his lovely Pueri Hebræorum). I see this CD in the set as saturation listening for the coming week.
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