Countdown to Extinction: The 2016 Presidential Election

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Todd

Quote from: karlhenning on February 03, 2016, 07:01:11 AM
What do you think: Jeb! drops out after the Granite State?


I give him until mid-March.  Lots on money and hope springs eternal.
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Todd

The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

Karl Henning

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[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
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His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

knight66

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I wasted time: and time wasted me.

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: knight66 on February 03, 2016, 08:25:29 AM
He wants to fight for the cause of liberty.....is liberty still delayed then?

Mike

There is a substantial faction in this country which believe that any form of governmental regulation whatsoever is an infringement on their right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. (by God, constitutionally guaran-freaking-teed)

Of course, they sure are happy to have a bridge over that river, or a road to that city they want to go to. Speaking of roads, I should just be able to go the speed I want on that road, and I also don't believe in paying a tax on this liquor I drink while driving along...  ::)

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knight66

So to obtain liberty you need to join government and be paid to salami-slice it into impotency, whilst continuing to draw the full salary, health insurances etc. A very bourgeois way of going about it. More arranging rather than fighting.

Mike
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drogulus


     People like liberty in the abstract while distrusting the Trojan Horseyness of it. Shit in a liberty wrapper is still shit.

     
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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: knight66 on February 03, 2016, 08:37:28 AM
So to obtain liberty you need to join government and be paid to salami-slice it into impotency, whilst continuing to draw the full salary, health insurances etc. A very bourgeois way of going about it. More arranging rather than fighting.

Mike
Quote from: drogulus on February 03, 2016, 09:04:18 AM
     People like liberty in the abstract while distrusting the Trojan Horseyness of it. Shit in a liberty wrapper is still shit.

There you have it. 2 very different ways of saying the same thing. In my view, we are all liberals in what we want from government and all conservatives when it comes to paying for it.

Although, to take Ernie's metaphor a step further towards reality: life is like a shit sandwich; the more bread you got, the less shit you have to eat. It's the American Way  :)

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Florestan

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on February 03, 2016, 10:17:26 AM
In my view, we are all liberals in what we want from government and all conservatives when it comes to paying for it.

I fully subscribe to : as much liberty as possible, as much constraint as neccesary, while being acutely aware that the degrees of possible and necessary vary heavily from country to country.



"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

bwv 1080

QuoteThe median American is no Nazi, but he is a moderate national socialist ... The same psychological force that thwarted the masses' wishes before 2012 continues to shield us.  What is that force?  For want of a better term, ADHD - Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder.  Populist policy preferences go hand-in-hand with intellectual laziness and intellectual impatience.  As a result, populist voters fail to hold their leaders' feet to the proverbial fire - allowing wiser, elitist heads to prevail.

i.e. we are saved from the Trumps and Sanders of the world by lazy voters with a short attention span, otherwise we would look like Argentina

http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2016/02/adhd_shall_save_1.html

Karl Henning

New, expanded schedule: 4 upcoming Democratic debates. And with O'Malley's exit, it's Clinton-VS.-Sanders, head to head.

I have choir rehearsal tomorrow, so I cannot help missing this first one.
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His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

drogulus


    After 2 terms governed by a towel snapping retahd, then 2 terms of governance by a law professor who'd make a good hermit, what now? Cruz and Rubio, if it comes to that, will vie for the honor of being a human sacrifice to the Queen of Hell. Not that there's anything wrong with that....

     Dubbing Hillary the Q of H might be a little grandiose considering what a monumental bore she is. Repubs can't bear being chewed to pieces by a nice old lady in a nice old lady pants suit, so she'll have to do.
     
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Todd

The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

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EddieRUKiddingVarese

#1534
Just change your leaders every time the wind changes, like we do in Oz.

We've had 5 in 5 years, good going I say- don't let 'em settle into anything they can only cause harm......

Outgoing PM Tony Abbott's words, "a febrile media culture has developed that rewards treachery"?

You gotta love the way pollies speak


"Everyone is born with genius, but most people only keep it a few minutes"
and I need the knits, the double knits!

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

drogulus


     A few Years ago Sanders talked for over 8 hours on the Senate floor, a filibuster. Today it's known as "the speech". A few of you may have heard of it. 

     The Punishment Begins:

     https://www.youtube.com/v/VLNKNq9soLE 

     

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Boston MA
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nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

drogulus


      National polls are useless at this stage. What matters now is that Hillary has a firewall in South Carolina. The last poll in late January had it Clinton 63% Sanders 33%. If things run true to form Sanders has picked up a bump to 38-40%, and a win in N.H. could move it up a little more. But I don't see Sanders going much above 40% in a two person race. He should lose by at best 55-45, more likely 60-40.
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