Countdown to Extinction: The 2016 Presidential Election

[Karl Henning]

Add to these historical trends, Hillary's dishonesty [....]

Time to call this the rubbish that it is.

No one who intends to vote for El Tupé has any intellectual capital to spend on complaining about Clinton's honesty.

[PerfectWagnerite]

Time to call this the rubbish that it is.

No one who intends to vote for El Tupé has any intellectual capital to spend on complaining about Clinton's honesty.

Or the fact that Trump has shown zero evidence that he is in any way more honest or trustworthy than Madame Secretary.

[San Antone]

Well, I (and apparently 70% of the electorate) make a distinction between Trump's alleged dishonesty and that of Hillary Clinton's which has been exposed by an FBI investigation.  Also, hers occured when she was acting as Secretary of State, the third highest offical in the Obama Adminstration, as opposed to Trump's, again alleged dishonesty, as a real estate businessman.

Objectiviety seems to be absent among Hillary's supporters.

Mind you, I am not a Trump "supporter".  Merely a Trump voter. 

[drogulus]

     

      I don't automatically assume one is a racist, sexist or Russian troll for supporting Trump. There must be other reasons to support him. We should ask a Repub man of principle like Ted Cruz how it works. He could explain like no one can.

[PerfectWagnerite]

     

      I don't automatically assume one is a racist, sexist or Russian troll for supporting Trump. There must be other reasons to support him. We should ask a Repub man of principle like Ted Cruz how it works. He could explain like no one can.

I don't know man...I find it hard to believe that someone who went to Princeton and then Harvard Law, two of the more liberal places on earth, is a principle conservative. He just seems really greasy to me, like after having a meeting with him you have to check your pockets to ascertain that your wallet is still there.

[Rinaldo]

Hillary's dishonesty

..which is a fabrication, as was evidenced by the Benghazi & e-mail witch hunts. A most thorough, GOP-driven investigation hasn't found anything tangible and the whole private server 'scandal' got blown out of proportion, given that many other officials from the Bush administration did exactly the same thing - and caught zero flak.

Hillary is flawed and made mistakes throughout her career but dishonest? Not by any objective, fact-based measure.

[(poco) Sforzando]

He made this recipe and it was GREAT. Serve hot.
http://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1015413-brandied-pumpkin-pie

And people knock the mainstream media!

[(poco) Sforzando]

I am apt to agree.  He will "be himself," and this will repel anyone who is not already determined to vote for "anyone but Clinton."

Especially if his post-mortem take on last night really is, "I ought to have hit Hillary harder."  That won't sell for anyone who isn't already in the tank with him.  And, of course, there he is, enormously misdiagnosing his flaccid performance last night.

He has already complained about the moderator, and said his microphone wasn't working. Whaddya want, this is Hofstra.

[Karl Henning]

http://fortune.com/2016/09/27/donald-trump-lied/

"The biggest problem with fact-checking the Republican candidate is that he seems to have a reality-distortion field that applies to his fan base in which even if he tells what appears to be a lie, he is seen as telling some larger truth."

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[Turner]

Over here, some analysts say that Trump seems to be looking for a way to avoid participating in the last two debates.

Imagine the ridiculousness:
"Vote for me as the person to make America great again. I´m not into political debates though."

[Brian]

According to Twitter Analytics, #TrumpWon began trending after the debate...and it originated in Russia.

[Parsifal]

Well, I (and apparently 70% of the electorate) make a distinction between Trump's alleged dishonesty and that of Hillary Clinton's which has been exposed by an FBI investigation.  Also, hers occured when she was acting as Secretary of State, the third highest offical in the Obama Adminstration, as opposed to Trump's, again alleged dishonesty, as a real estate businessman.

Objectiviety seems to be absent among Hillary's supporters.

What did Hilary have to gain by using a private server for her e-mail? Her obvious motivation was that it would make it easier to do her job, and it wouldn't be a problem. In my view it was a case of poor judgement, not dishonesty. Other high officials, including many Bush Administration staffers made a similar error in judgment. My main reservation about Hillary is her association with the status quo in U.S. big business, which I think has to change.

When I look at Donald Trump I see someone who will prey on the weak (Trump University, which was described under oath as a blatant fraud by his own staffers) tell any blatant lie that he thinks will help him (the birther conspiracy, then claiming it originated with Hillary) whose main business skill is siphoning money from projects that fail (Atlantic City). I see a man utterly without integrity.

[Turner]

According to Twitter Analytics, #TrumpWon began trending after the debate...and it originated in Russia.

Cf.
https://twitter.com/DustinGiebel/status/780814613021548544

St. Petersburg is also the location of a lot of the state-organized internet trolling originating from Russia, verified beyond doubt.

[Herman]

Hillary isn't talking like people actually talk... Someone is talking in her ear and she keeps pausing to hear and repeat.

The latter is obviously untrue.

[drogulus]

What did Hilary have to gain by using a private server for her e-mail? Her obvious motivation was that it would make it easier to do her job, and it wouldn't be a problem. In my view it was a case of poor judgement, not dishonesty. Other high officials, including many Bush Administration staffers made a similar error in judgment. My main reservation about Hillary is her association with the status quo in U.S. big business, which I think has to change.

When I look at Donald Trump I see someone who will prey on the weak (Trump University, which was described under oath as a blatant fraud by his own staffers) tell any blatant lie that he thinks will help him (the birther conspiracy, then claiming it originated with Hillary) whose main business skill is siphoning money from projects that fail (Atlantic City). I see a man utterly without integrity.

     Is there anyone as sophisticated about cybersecurity as most of us at GMG are who doesn't understand that HRC was simply carrying forward the email practice of yesteryear after it had become out of date? Of course it was insecure! Let's be clear about her motives, she wanted a convenient way to communicate with everyone in her network and accepted the assurances from her IT people that it was OK. IMO this was clearly negligent.

     The freshman class of Repubs are looking down the barrel of the "pre-impeachment" of the next President. Can you imagine what that must be like?

     

St. Petersburg is also the location of a lot of the state-organized internet trolling originating from Russia, verified beyond doubt.

     Here it is:

     

     55 Savushkina Street, St Petersburg, Russia

     

[Herman]

I think Obama got votes because of his race, the first Black president.  Hillary should get more votes as the first woman president.  Are the people voting for her, because she's a woman, sexist or just the ones voting against her?

none of the above. People are voting for her be she's competent and steady while Trump is a raving narcissist who treats other people like dirt.

[drogulus]

     Washington (AFP) - Fresh off his presidential clash with Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump doubled down Tuesday on criticism of a former Miss Universe he accused of getting too fat, comments that could repel women voters.

Alicia Machado, who won the crown in 1996, has accused Trump -- whose company owned the Miss Universe pageant until last year -- of calling her "Miss Piggy" and "Miss Housekeeping," and publicly humiliating her over her post-victory weight gain.

The morning after Clinton invoked Machado's experience as an example of how the brash billionaire treats women, he lashed out at the beauty queen.

"She gained a massive amount of weight, and it was a real problem," Trump told Fox television Tuesday.

"She was the worst we ever had. The worst, the absolute worst," he added. "She was impossible."

     

     The worst, Jerry, the absolute worst!

[Karl Henning]

He did and said nothing wrong, you see.  She had gained a massive amount of weight.  He was justified in abusing her.  He was right, because "Miss Piggy" was no Mother Theresa.

[Gurn Blanston]

none of the above. People are voting for her be she's competent and steady while Trump is a raving narcissist who treats other people like dirt.

Well, that's why I am voting for her and not him. I would hope others are reaching the same sort of decision about now after seeing the Cinnamon Hitler in action last night.

[Karl Henning]

Well, that's why I am voting for her and not him. I would hope others are reaching the same sort of decision about now after seeing the Cinnamon Hitler in action last night.

Separately, for anyone too lazy to search YouTube for trump sniffing montage on their own:

http://www.youtube.com/v/5BJjUv_TD2E