Countdown to Extinction: The 2016 Presidential Election

[PerfectWagnerite]

For once i agree with Don.

[(poco) Sforzando]

This whole thing is becoming (more) surreal. Trump just held a little press event where two women flanked him on each side and voiced their support for the oh-so-modest Donald. One of them claimed Bill Clinton had raped her. Obviously this is why we should support Donald Trump for president.

I look forward to the next two hours with fascinated dread.

It's getting more bizarre by the moment. From the (evil, as we all know) NY Times:

The Republican Party was at the brink of civil war on Sunday as Donald J. Trump signaled he would retaliate against lawmakers who withdraw their support from his campaign, and senior party leaders privately acknowledged that they now feared losing control of both houses of Congress.

On Twitter, Mr. Trump attacked the Republicans fleeing his campaign as "self-righteous hypocrites" and predicted their defeat at the ballot box. In a set of talking points sent to his supporters Sunday morning, Mr. Trump's campaign urged them to attack turncoat Republicans as "more concerned with their political future than they are about the country."

Trump Tower, since Friday afternoon, has become a kind of lonely fortress for its most famous occupant, who holes up inside, increasingly isolated and upset, denounced almost every hour by another Republican official.

Mr. Trump was asked to stay away from a party gathering Saturday afternoon in Wisconsin, where Speaker Paul D. Ryan and other state luminaries took the stage, a striking rebuke that left the Republican nominee for president with no place to go on a Saturday 31 days before the election.

As Republicans across the country contend with the fallout from a newly released recording in which Donald J. Trump made vulgar and sexually degrading comments about women, perhaps nowhere was reaction more swift and decisive than in Utah, home to a sizable Mormon population already deeply unsettled by a sense of the candidate's moral shortcomings.

Within hours of the video's release on Friday, a number of top Republican officials in the state yanked their endorsements, including Gov. Gary Herbert, a Mormon, who declared Mr. Trump's statements "beyond offensive and despicable." Representative Jason Chaffetz, who is also Mormon, said that if he voted for Mr. Trump he would no longer be able to look his 15-year-old daughter in the eye.

On Saturday, the Deseret News, a media outlet owned by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, broke with an 80-year tradition of refraining from presidential endorsements to publish an editorial calling on Mr. Trump to step aside.

[Zeus]

As of 9:32 PM Trump is in full jackass mode.  Can't watch this.

I don't care what anyone else thinks − there's no way in H##L I'm gonna vote for this sleeze-ball. I'd vote for Mike Tyson before I'd vote for this clown.

[Gurn Blanston]

As of 9:32 PM Trump is in full jackass mode.  Can't watch this.

I don't care what anyone else thinks − there's no way in H##L I'm gonna vote for this sleeze-ball. I'd vote for Mike Tyson before I'd vote for this clown.

The Giants are at Green Bay. Good game, too.  Just sayin'....

[drogulus]

     Having got sick of all this sniffing by the Orange Baby I finally decided to Google "Trump drug use" and it appears Howard Dean is probably wrong about cocaine. It's likely a form of speed. The symptoms of long term use fit.

     Brady is back, 406 yds, 3 TDs.

[Mirror Image]

After about 30 minutes, I went back to music. Life's too short to waste on watching the Donald avoid answering tough questions. He's always on the attack. Always. He never shuts up for a minute to realize that he's not even answering the question that has been asked but going on a tirade against Clinton yet again. If his 'locker room' talk wasn't enough, his asshole, I'm never wrong attitude should've been enough tonight.

[(poco) Sforzando]

He's totally incoherent, but she is not crisp tonight. She really is not taking the same advantage of her opportunities to demolish him as she did in the first debate. And she had no defense against the "deplorables" remark, which was the dumbest thing she said all campaign. This debate sounds like a tired retread of the first one.

At 95 minutes in, the first mention of climate change in either debate.

[(poco) Sforzando]

Last audience question, best of the night: "Do you respect anything about the other?"

Moderator: "Mr. Trump?"
Trump is silent.
Hillary: "I respect his children."
Trump: "I respect that she's a fighter."

[Herman]

Last audience question, best of the night: "Do you respect anything about the other?"

Shows again how trivial these shows are. Especially after Trump's Mussolini retort about jailing HRC the necessary question would again have been whether both candidates would respect the Nov 8 outcome.

[Madiel]

Well, I have this to say about that debate:

Throwing political opponents in jail is something we associate with tinpot dictatorships. Not the supposed Leader of the Free World.

As someone who writes laws for a living, the fact that a candidate for President of the USA can have so little regard for the rule of law and separation of powers is truly disturbing.

[(poco) Sforzando]

Paul Krugman wrote in the New York Times (and of course, let's be clear: this is the evil, liberal, distorted, malicious, partisan mainstream media, which means anything that appears there no matter what the source must be automatically discounted):

"Let's be clear: a candidate for president promised to put his opponent in jail if he wins. Everything else is secondary."

And of course, this is manna from heaven to the "Lock her up!" crowd. Never mind that "Lock her up!" is explicitly and profoundly at variance with the due process clause of the Fifth Amendment and numerous other laws and traditions of this country (since the only amendment that really counts is the Second, even though its current SC interpretation has nothing to do with what the Founders intended).

[71 dB]

After about 30 minutes, I went back to music. Life's too short to waste on watching the Donald avoid answering tough questions.

Let me guess, you went to listen to Ives? 

[Karl Henning]

Donald Trump is running for dictator, not for president.

The debate's most unnerving moment came early. "If I win, I'm going to instruct the attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation, because there's never been so many lies, so much deception," Trump told Hillary Clinton.

"It's just awfully good that someone with the temperament of [El Tupé] is not in charge of the law of our country," Clinton shot back.

[El Tupé], determined as always to make subtext into text, left no room for confusion. "Because you'd be in jail," he said.

So there it was. The Republican nominee for president of the United States has promised to imprison his opponent if he wins the election. "This is what happens in dictatorships," wrote the New York Times' Max Fisher. "Not democracies."

And, let's say it again: El Tupé accusing anyone else on the planet of lies and deception, is the biggest con of this election cycle.

[Karl Henning]

Let me guess, you went to listen to Ives? 

"Debate" . . . unanswered question . . . very nicely played, Poju!

[Karl Henning]

His staff and any Republicans still on board deserve the blistering loss that awaits them in November and the professional humiliation that goes with enabling a creep.

[(poco) Sforzando]

Let me guess, you went to listen to Ives? 

With Ives, you go back to a kindler, gentler, more optimistic America. At least that's what the illusion tells you.

[Turner]

Trump´s Taj Mahal closing down today, 3000 losing their jobs:

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Trump-Taj-Mahal-Closes-After-26-Years-on-Atlantic-City-Boardwalk-396507061.html

Even we Europeans have heard of that casino, so a big brand for him.

[listener]

Canadians are celebrating Thanksgiving today.

[(poco) Sforzando]

Trump´s Taj Mahal closing down today, 3000 losing their jobs:

That's because he's smart.

[PerfectWagnerite]

Ok so does Daughter Ogler here have any shot of winning in November?

This article seems to think the only question is how badly Grandma is going to beat him:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2016/10/09/the-second-debate-the-end-of-trump/?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-b%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.8d2a2b47dae0