Countdown to Extinction: The 2016 Presidential Election

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Brian

Quote from: Herman on October 13, 2016, 12:17:04 PM
In your partisanship you seem to be unaware that the NYT and Hillary Clinton have been enjoying a very bad, antagonistic relationship for many many years.

The NYT cannot stand HC because she's so unforthcoming and secretive, and the NYT has been a major party in the pursuing of the email story.

It is also the kind of paper that shows us that many other people in the State Dept have done exactly the same.
You just reminded me that the NYT employs an editorial columnist - Maureen Dowd - who sometimes seems to have "insult the Clintons" as her one and only goal in life.

Madiel

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Quote from: sanantonio on October 13, 2016, 10:09:59 AM
Media Abandons Its Integrity to Take Down Trump

Rape Victim: Hillary Clinton Laughed at Me for Getting Raped

Obama Lied. My Third Health Plan Just Died

The one about Clinton laughing has been debunked. Many, many times. At heart it's a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.

EDIT: I also see from the rest of the thread since then that your determination to be an amateur lawyer who knows exactly what was criminal about the email affair has not abated. Why don't you just type LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP! over and over again, it might as well have the same effect and has about as much grasp of the situation.
Every single post on the forum is unnecessary. Including the ones that are interesting or useful.

Pat B

Quote from: sanantonio on October 13, 2016, 11:55:11 AM
I said "non-Liberal".  There are a few mainstream media outlets which are non-Liberal, thankfully.  People say that Fox News has a right-wing bias.  I agree it does, thankfully, one major television network presents the Conservative POV.  But no Democrat admits to a Liberal bias of NYT and WPost or CNN or ABC, CBS, etc.

MSNBC is the left-wing reflection of Fox News.

Madiel

Also...

The fact that Trump's denial of a sexual assault allegation includes a comment on the accuser's physical appearance confirms everything about his character. It doesn't even matter whether the allegation is true or not. THAT RESPONSE is enough to reinforce all the negative views about what kind of person Trump is.

The same really goes for the 2005 video. The man in that video is entirely consistent with the man that's been campaigning for a year. A man who simply can't resist juvenile remarks. A man who hasn't got beyond the "EW! I wouldn't touch HER!" kind of responses you would get between teenagers accusing each other of having kissed the unpopular girl.

The man is affluenza grown up.
Every single post on the forum is unnecessary. Including the ones that are interesting or useful.

Karl Henning

Quote from: North Star on October 13, 2016, 10:49:43 AM
Wait, what is this about Hillary's emails? I haven't heard about them, probably because the media haven't written about it enough.

I just wanted to express appreciation of your wit, sieur.
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[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Madiel

Every single post on the forum is unnecessary. Including the ones that are interesting or useful.

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: sanantonio on October 13, 2016, 11:55:11 AM
I said "non-Liberal".  There are a few mainstream media outlets which are non-Liberal, thankfully.  People say that Fox News has a right-wing bias.  I agree it does, thankfully, one major television network presents the Conservative POV.  But no Democrat admits to a Liberal bias of NYT and WPost or CNN or ABC, CBS, etc.

Because, as I have already told you: just to take the NYT, it prints Conservative columnists like David Brooks, Ross Douthat, and others. So the liberal bias, while it may be present in the editorial board, does not represent the paper entirely.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

San Antone

From the WSJ

The Press Buries Hillary Clinton's Sins
As reporters focus on Trump, they miss new details on Clinton's rotten record.

If average voters turned on the TV for five minutes this week, chances are they know that Donald Trump made lewd remarks a decade ago and now stands accused of groping women.

But even if average voters had the TV on 24/7, they still probably haven't heard the news about Hillary Clinton: That the nation now has proof of pretty much everything she has been accused of.

It comes from hacked emails dumped by WikiLeaks, documents released under the Freedom of Information Act, and accounts from FBI insiders. The media has almost uniformly ignored the flurry of bombshells, preferring to devote its front pages to the Trump story. So let's review what amounts to a devastating case against a Clinton presidency.

Start with a June 2015 email to Clinton staffers from Erika Rottenberg, the former general counsel of LinkedIn. Ms. Rottenberg wrote that none of the attorneys in her circle of friends "can understand how it was viewed as ok/secure/appropriate to use a private server for secure documents AND why further Hillary took it upon herself to review them and delete documents." She added: "It smacks of acting above the law and it smacks of the type of thing I've either gotten discovery sanctions for, fired people for, etc."

A few months later, in a September 2015 email, a Clinton confidante fretted that Mrs. Clinton was too bullheaded to acknowledge she'd done wrong. "Everyone wants her to apologize," wrote Neera Tanden, president of the liberal Center for American Progress. "And she should. Apologies are like her Achilles' heel."

Clinton staffers debated how to evade a congressional subpoena of Mrs. Clinton's emails—three weeks before a technician deleted them. The campaign later employed a focus group to see if it could fool Americans into thinking the email scandal was part of the Benghazi investigation (they are separate) and lay it all off as a Republican plot.

A senior FBI official involved with the Clinton investigation told Fox News this week that the "vast majority" of career agents and prosecutors working the case "felt she should be prosecuted" and that giving her a pass was "a top-down decision."

The Obama administration—the federal government, supported by tax dollars—was working as an extension of the Clinton campaign. The State Department coordinated with her staff in responding to the email scandal, and the Justice Department kept her team informed about developments in the court case.

Worse, Mrs. Clinton's State Department, as documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act show, took special care of donors to the Clinton Foundation. In a series of 2010 emails, a senior aide to Mrs. Clinton asked a foundation official to let her know which groups offering assistance with the Haitian earthquake relief were "FOB" (Friends of Bill) or "WJC VIPs" (William Jefferson Clinton VIPs). Those who made the cut appear to have been teed up for contracts. Those who weren't? Routed to a standard government website.

The leaks show that the foundation was indeed the nexus of influence and money. The head of the Clinton Health Access Initiative, Ira Magaziner, suggested in a 2011 email that Bill Clinton call Sheikh Mohammed of Saudi Arabia to thank him for offering the use of a plane. In response, a top Clinton Foundation official wrote: "Unless Sheikh Mo has sent us a $6 million check, this sounds crazy to do."

The entire progressive apparatus—the Clinton campaign and boosters at the Center for American Progress—appears to view voters as stupid and tiresome, segregated into groups that must either be cajoled into support or demeaned into silence. We read that Republicans are attracted to Catholicism's "severely backwards gender relations" and only join the faith to "sound sophisticated"; that Democratic leaders such as Bill Richardson are "needy Latinos"; that Bernie Sanders supporters are "self-righteous"; that the only people who watch Miss America "are from the confederacy"; and that New York Mayor Bill de Blasio is "a terrorist."

The leaks also show that the press is in Mrs. Clinton's pocket. Donna Brazile, a former Clinton staffer and a TV pundit, sent the exact wording of a coming CNN town hall question to the campaign in advance of the event. Other media allowed the Clinton camp to veto which quotes they used from interviews, worked to maximize her press events and offered campaign advice.

Mrs. Clinton has been exposed to have no core, to be someone who constantly changes her position to maximize political gain. Leaked speeches prove that she has two positions (public and private) on banks; two positions on the wealthy; two positions on borders; two positions on energy. Her team had endless discussions about what positions she should adopt to appease "the Red Army"—i.e. "the base of the Democratic Party."

Voters might not know any of this, because while both presidential candidates have plenty to answer for, the press has focused solely on taking out Mr. Trump. And the press is doing a diligent job of it.


San Antone

FBI, DOJ roiled by Comey, Lynch decision to let Clinton slide by on emails, says insider

The decision to let Hillary Clinton off the hook for mishandling classified information has roiled the FBI and Department of Justice, with one person closely involved in the year-long probe telling FoxNews.com that career agents and attorneys on the case unanimously believed the Democratic presidential nominee should have been charged.

The source, who spoke to FoxNews.com on the condition of anonymity, said FBI Director James Comey's dramatic July 5 announcement that he would not recommend to the Attorney General's office that the former secretary of state be charged left members of the investigative team dismayed and disgusted. More than 100 FBI agents and analysts worked around the clock with six attorneys from the DOJ's National Security Division, Counter Espionage Section, to investigate the case.

"No trial level attorney agreed, no agent working the case agreed, with the decision not to prosecute -- it was a top-down decision," said the source, whose identity and role in the case has been verified by FoxNews.com.

A high-ranking FBI official told Fox News that while it might not have been a unanimous decision, "It was unanimous that we all wanted her [Clinton's] security clearance yanked."

"It is safe to say the vast majority felt she should be prosecuted," the senior FBI official told Fox News. "We were floored while listening to the FBI briefing because Comey laid it all out, and then said 'but we are doing nothing,' which made no sense to us."

Read the rest here.

PerfectWagnerite

Quote from: sanantonio on October 13, 2016, 04:33:29 PM
From the WSJ


Mrs. Clinton has been exposed to have no core, to be someone who constantly changes her position to maximize political gain. Leaked speeches prove that she has two positions (public and private) on banks; two positions on the wealthy; two positions on borders; two positions on energy. Her team had endless discussions about what positions she should adopt to appease "the Red Army"—i.e. "the base of the Democratic Party."


Dude that applies to ALL politicians independent of party. Why is that a surprise?

zamyrabyrd

"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one."

― Charles MacKay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

zamyrabyrd

Quote from: sanantonio on October 13, 2016, 04:35:19 PM
FBI, DOJ roiled by Comey, Lynch decision to let Clinton slide by on emails, says insider

This is for you sananton. I would say you shouldn't expend energy for those who will not see the family of dinosaurs in the room. The name of the game is: don't bother us with facts. Compare MENTALLY SICK Billy boy getting a free pass with serial rape for decades with his wife harassing his victims to international coverage of someone saying a "dirty word".

http://clashdaily.com/2016/10/anonymous-video-bill-clinton-raping-13-yr-old-girl-will-plunge-race-chaos/

Former President Bill Clinton was a much more frequent flyer on a registered sex offender's infamous jet than previously reported, with flight logs showing the former president taking at least 26 trips aboard the "Lolita Express" — even apparently ditching his Secret Service detail for at least five of the flight...
"Bill Clinton ... associated with a man like Jeffrey Epstein, who everyone in New York, certainly within his inner circles, knew was a pedophile," said Conchita Sarnoff, of the Washington, D.C. based non-profit Alliance to Rescue Victims of Trafficking, and author of a book on the Epstein case called "TrafficKing." "Why would a former president associate with a man like that?"
Epstein, who counts among his pals royal figures, heads of state, celebrities and fellow billionaires, spent 13 months in prison and home detention for solicitation and procurement of minors for prostitution. He allegedly had a team of traffickers who procured girls as young as 12 to service his friends on "Orgy Island," an estate on Epstein's 72-acre island, called Little St. James, in the U.S. Virgin Islands.


Notice Epstein did spend some time in the can. But for the politically entrenched: "when you have capital, you don't get punishment". The same yardstick was applied to the likes of Ted Kennedy who let his girlfriend drown in a car he drove off a pier while under the influence and escaped from the crime scene to go home and sleep it off. The teflon effect is for those who perpetrate the big lie. Small offenses get the steam roller because they are easier to comprehend and deal with.
When superficial charm is plastered over the dirt, I mean, how could smiling Ted (or fill in the blank) be so bad???
One may smile and smile and be a villain...

"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one."

― Charles MacKay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

zamyrabyrd

"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one."

― Charles MacKay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

zamyrabyrd

"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one."

― Charles MacKay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

(Incidentally, that darned Washington Post "hid" the story of Wikileaks and Clinton's hacked e-mail on yesterday's front page! Where's the outrage?)
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

[El Tupé] is giving us a master class in why #WomenDontReport

QuoteDonald Trump knows how rape culture operates, and he's taking advantage of it.

QuoteIn the past 24 hours, we've witnessed a master class in the way powerful men get away with assault, harassment, and abuse of their power.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

André


drogulus



     How Donald Trump Supporters Attack Journalists

Because I have written critically about Trump, I have received innumerable death threats, sometimes just general invocations that I should die, sometimes more specific threats that I should be shot or "lynched," as one Trump fan wrote. I have been called "kike," "Jew" and "anti-American Zionist," even though I'm Episcopalian with a Jewish father (as if that makes a difference). I have received video cartoons that look like they are from Nazi Germany of hook-nosed men dressed in Jewish garb rubbing their hands greedily over piles of money. I have been told to go back where I came from, whatever that means. I have been called "fag," "pedo," and once—in an email that made no sense—"nigger-lover." One Trump fan mentioned he knew which schools my children attended, and correctly named them. Topping it off, some Trump fans have even gone after one of my sons online, although he knew enough to immediately block them.

     
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