Countdown to Extinction: The 2016 Presidential Election

[zamyrabyrd]

It's not a case of "he said, she said." It's a case of "he said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said. . . . "

These are individual cases, 9 in total. Just because one might be right doesn't make the others right. In fact they can all be wrong or all right. Still there is no evidence. Maybe they all got some pocket money as well.

[Karl Henning]

. . . but the recent accusations have been without any real evidence.

Quoth Jennifer Rubin: (Well, other than their accounts, the people they told about the incidents and her husband's own description of his behavior.)

Is Melania Trump devilishly clever — or totally out to lunch?

[PerfectWagnerite]

I found this pretty hilarious regarding K. Willey:

Clinton stated that the allegation was absurd because Willey is a small-breasted woman and he would never pursue such a woman

Kind of like Trump saying one of his accusers is too ugly for him to grope her.

[Karl Henning]

Even worse, Melania Trump sounded like an apologist and enabler of Donald Trump's alleged predatory behavior — and made him sound like a weak child. She claimed that Billy Bush had "egged" her husband on to talk "dirty." (If he cannot resist Billy Bush, imagine him up against Vladimir Putin!) She insisted her husband was merely engaged in "boy talk." Cooper deadpanned, "He was 59."

[Karl Henning]

Donald Trump is preparing to argue that if he loses the presidential election on November 8, that's only because it was "stolen" from him.

So if Trump does go down to defeat, Republican and conservative leaders across the country will immediately face a choice on November 9.

Do they play along with Trump's bullshit, or do they tell their voters the truth — that he lost fair and square?

[Zeus]

These are individual cases, 9 in total. Just because one might be right doesn't make the others right. In fact they can all be wrong or all right. Still there is no evidence. Maybe they all got some pocket money as well.

The Republicans have been collecting dirt on the Clintons for over two decades now. Heck, there are plenty of people who make a good living doing just that. While they've clearly compromised Bill, Hillary comes out looking surprisingly clean.

Trump has been in the spotlight for less than a year, and serious efforts to collect dirt on him have hardly begun. Trump has also been covering his butt for a long time with various payoffs, non-disclosure agreements, and threats to sue. Based on his obviously predatory lifestyle, there's plenty more dirt out there on him that hasn't come out yet.  Including that 13-year-old girl whom he slept with a few years back.

If Trump (God help us) is elected president, a lot more dirt will float to the surface.

[zamyrabyrd]

Donald Trump is preparing to argue that if he loses the presidential election on November 8, that's only because it was "stolen" from him. So if Trump does go down to defeat, Republican and conservative leaders across the country will immediately face a choice on November 9. Do they play along with Trump's bullshit, or do they tell their voters the truth — that he lost fair and square?

I put my bets on a dark horse. Sooner or later we will have President Kaine. I don't think the lady can last out 4 years.

[Karl Henning]

I put my bets on a dark horse. Sooner or later we will have President Kaine. I don't think the lady can last out 4 years.

Well, if she lasts eight years, you will be pleasantly surprised, then 

[Karl Henning]

Separately, call it creepy rather than illegal . . .

Donald Trump has been making disturbing comments about young girls for years

The video of the child pulling back from him as he tries to kiss her on the lips;  don't watch if your stomach is weak.

[PerfectWagnerite]

Wasn't there a comment by Trump regarding a 10 yr old girl something along the line of "In 10 yrs I will be dating her/sleeping with her etc."?

[zamyrabyrd]

Well, if she lasts eight years, you will be pleasantly surprised, then 

Not a pleasant surprise to have 4 or 8 more years of everything that is wrong with the country.
The lady seems to have a neurological disorder. One does not "faint" from pneumonia and skip down Madison Avenue an hour and a half later. This kind of collapse is either neurological or cardio-vascular (according to some doctors). One learned opinion (can get the source if you want) says that the concussion in 2012 could have been more likely a result of an already existing condition like Parkinson's, not the other way around (in other words falling from a blackout). She also has exhibited freezing, strange tics and uncoordinated eye movements typical of just that.

If would have been much better for her to clench her life's ambition in 2008. I heard a very interesting take on that. The premise was losing to Obama because he represented more the underdog than her. Correcting the mistake, she's trying to project this with her "working class" father, and rich people carrying their share of the tax burden (while deftly hiding the millions she made in the past two decades).

[Karl Henning]

Wasn't there a comment by Trump regarding a 10 yr old girl something along the line of "In 10 yrs I will be dating her/sleeping with her etc."?

More than one occasion, "I'll be dating her."

[PerfectWagnerite]

More than one occasion, "I'll be dating her."

And he wants to lock Grandma up?

[Karl Henning]

Hillary Clinton's email problems just came roaring back

The Clinton campaign will, as it has done every time there is any news about whether she sent or received classified material on her private server, chalk this up to an interagency dispute over classification. Typical bureaucratic mumbo-jumbo, they will say. This sort of stuff happens all the time!

Except, not really . . . .

[(poco) Sforzando]

These are individual cases, 9 in total. Just because one might be right doesn't make the others right. In fact they can all be wrong or all right. Still there is no evidence. Maybe they all got some pocket money as well.

And what kind of evidence would satisfy you? a videotape? Does it not concern you that Trump's alleged behavior is entirely consistent with the "locker room boy talk" for which we do have videotaped evidence in the Billy Bush conversation, as well as a whole history of well-documented derogatory attacks on women? And for someone so concerned with evidence, why do you poison the well by bringing up kickbacks for which you know perfectly well there is no evidence?

It boggles the mind as well to hear that you "tend to believe Melania" standing by her man when you have attacked Hillary Clinton for doing precisely the same for her man.

[zamyrabyrd]

More than one occasion, "I'll be dating her."

Oh come now, I have heard that said in jest by my own uncles. Give me a break!

[drogulus]

 
    Trump says if he wins election he might meet with Putin before officially taking office

"If he says great things about me, I'm going to say great things about him," Trump said in September. "I've already said he is very much of a leader. The man has very strong control over his country."

     https://www.youtube.com/v/FO725Hbzfls

     The point is not that Putin = Hitler. I'm making a different point, that on any scale of threat appeasement = appeasement where aggressive autocrats are concerned. It's the pattern we know so well from the '30s.

[zamyrabyrd]

And what kind of evidence would satisfy you? a videotape? Does it not concern you that Trump's alleged behavior is entirely consistent with the "locker room boy talk" for which we do have videotaped evidence in the Billy Bush conversation, as well as a whole history of well-documented derogatory attacks on women? And for someone so concerned with evidence, why do you poison the well by bringing up kickbacks for which you know perfectly well there is no evidence? It boggles the mind as well to hear that you "tend to believe Melania" standing by her man when you have attacked Hillary Clinton for doing precisely the same for her man.

Monica Lewinsky was just making it up? There was no one to corroborate his gift to her (and a few other things)?
Paula Jones, Broadderick, Gennifer Flowers? Standing by a known serial moocher for decades is on a totally different level. Actions do speak louder than words. The hypocrisy is staggering.

[PerfectWagnerite]

Oh come now, I have heard that said in jest by my own uncles. Give me a break!

Do your uncles also call you "a piece of ass"?

[zamyrabyrd]

Do your uncles also call you "a piece of ass"?

No