Countdown to Extinction: The 2016 Presidential Election

[Madiel]

Oh fine, if you want to carry on, answer me this:

What, precisely, is different between Clinton's use of email and Colin Powell's use of email?

EDIT: As to "why?", the answer is "because there are 2 candidates for the job in question and the other one is a complete and utter loon". If the GOP had chosen a candidate who was a plausible option, these conversations would be very different.

[Brian]

That's why we are voting for different candidates.  If Hillary wins, let's have a drink in 4 or 8 years and see if you still think the same.

Hey, that sounds fair enough!

[Brian]

What, precisely, is different between Clinton's use of email and Colin Powell's use of email?

My guess: Powell's use was earlier in the history of email & email programs, when the government had no clear understanding of how to treat email security, or what cyber warfare would look like?

[Karl Henning]

That's why we are voting for different candidates.  If Hillary wins, let's have a drink in 4 or 8 years and see if you still think the same.

Wait, if Hillary wins, you're going to wait four years before standing us a drink?  You aren't sore, are you?

[Madiel]

My guess: Powell's use was earlier in the history of email & email programs, when the government had no clear understanding of how to treat email security, or what cyber warfare would look like?

I thought the government was supposed to have experts, with expertise. Are you saying the NSA hadn't figured this stuff out in the early 2000s. Are you saying a former national security adviser himself hadn't figured this out?**

And we're talking about a law that has been on the books for many years.

**I hadn't even known until now that Powell had held that job, but it's almost too perfect. Thanks, Wikipedia.

[San Antone]

Oh fine, if you want to carry on, answer me this:

What, precisely, is different between Clinton's use of email and Colin Powell's use of email?

EDIT: As to "why?", the answer is "because there are 2 candidates for the job in question and the other one is a complete and utter loon". If the GOP had chosen a candidate who was a plausible option, these conversations would be very different.

Colin Powell has stated that he only used his private email for non government use.  There is no comparison, and he was quite adamant about that when the Clinton campaign tried to imply what you suggest.

[San Antone]

Wait, if Hillary wins, you're going to wait four years before standing us a drink?  You aren't sore, are you?

No, I was implying that her past behavior which indicates a belief by her of being above the law will be made evident as president and all those who voted for her will feel like those who voted for Nixon.

It will be you who will be buying me a drink.

[Karl Henning]

No, I was implying that her past behavior which indicates a belief by her of being above the law will be made evident as president and all those who voted for her will feel like those who voted for Nixon.

It will be you who will be buying me a drink.

I like that sunny optimism of yours!  Such a sharp contrast to your preferred candidate 

[Madiel]

Colin Powell has stated that he only used his private email for non government use.  There is no comparison, and he was quite adamant about that when the Clinton campaign tried to imply what you suggest.

Hmm. Well, the first thing that's different is that you take Powell's statement as good enough. What, no investigation required? Maybe, out of his thousands and thousands of emails, we can find about 3 that are classified?

What he actually said, from the sources I can find, is that he didn't use it for classified information. Note, not "non-government", but "non-classified".

I also note that the rules during Powell's tenure appear to have been significantly different, making it less likely that he would breach any government rules on the subject. But if you keep insisting that it's the criminal law that is the issue, rather than the Department of State rules and administrative sanction, then maybe we should go check whether each and every one of Powell's emails was okay.

I actually accept that there ARE differences, but I asked you to identify them precisely, and you managed to pick something unconvincing.

[drogulus]

 
      I leap to the conclusion that the vote is rigged Comey is corrupt, because I can. The vast quantities of virgin blood Hillary consumes to maintain a near normal appearance will not sway me. The issues are separate.

[Madiel]

I doubt even Clinton can be blamed for Trump's seeming inability to deal properly with any human being who isn't a white alpha-male buddy of his.

[Parsifal]

fwiw my ranking

5. generally inexperienced in leadership
4. recklessly handled classified information; lied to cover up that mishandling
3. generally inexperienced in leadership; policy proposals are frivolous, impossible, and insulting; promotes conspiracy theories; distrusts policy experts; exhibits general inability to govern
2. exhibits complete ignorance of world, world leaders, and world affairs; exhibits general inability to govern
1. generally inexperienced in leadership; policy proposals are frivolous, impossible, and insulting; promotes conspiracy theories; distrusts policy experts; exhibits complete ignorance of world, world leaders, and world affairs; exhibits general inability to govern; exhibits no understanding of Constitution or protected freedoms; vows to restrict free speech and free movement; regularly commits sexual assault; racist; sexist; operates fraudulent "charity" as money laundering scheme; solicited donations to "charity" to pay for personal expenses; lies so serially as to undermine the very existence of truth as a philosophical concept

I'd say that sums it up. You didn't mention the fraudulent university, or that he seems to regard anyone who indulges in self-sacrifice for the benefit others as loser or object of ridicule (Kahn family, John McCain, etc).

[drogulus]

     Sean Hannity: 'I could see Marco being president one day'

     Sean, you are the best.....oh, I forgot, there is only one.

     

     

[PerfectWagnerite]

     Sean Hannity: 'I could see Marco being president one day'

     Sean, you are the best.....oh, I forgot, there is only one.

     

   

Who? LITTLE Marco?

[(poco) Sforzando]

The question is "why?"

No, the question is why you continue to scratch this same itch. The matter has put to rest, and no charges were brought. It is of no importance that the outcome does not meet with your satisfaction.

[(poco) Sforzando]

I'd say that sums it up. You didn't mention the fraudulent university, or that he seems to regard anyone who indulges in self-sacrifice for the benefit others as loser or object of ridicule (Kahn family, John McCain, etc).

Or ridicules those with physical disabilities or who exhibit physical weakness. Or pretends the Bible is his favorite book (remember that from a few months ago?) when he couldn't even cite a favorite passage. (Real Bible-thumpers love to cite their favorite passages.) Etc.

[drogulus]

     Trump seems like a G E B man to me. He's pretty loopy.

     How gullible are you? Is your gullibility located in some "gullibility center" in your brain? Could a neurosurgeon reach in and perform some delicate operation to lower your gullibility, otherwise leaving you alone? If you believe this, you are pretty gullible, and should perhaps consider such an operation.

[André]

Or ridicules those with physical disabilities or who exhibit physical weakness. Or pretends the Bible is his favorite book (remember that from a few months ago?) when he couldn't even cite a favorite passage. (Real Bible-thumpers love to cite their favorite passages.) Etc.

Unless the Bible is the last book they read a passage of, 50 years ago... Come on, be kind: there's a limit to what the ol' memory can store

[André]

The world does not need a Putin puppet !!!

[Mirror Image]

Clinton mopped the floor with El Tupe tonight and I loved every minute of it. He's a tyrant, a complete bigot, and, most of all, absolutely not presidential material.