Countdown to Extinction: The 2016 Presidential Election

[zamyrabyrd]

From the photo album:

(translation of the 1st: Forum America and the Islamic World 13-18 February 2010)








courtesy of: http://detonate.com/pictures-that-hillary-clinton-wishes-would-go-away/

[(poco) Sforzando]

From the photo album:

You mean the president of the US actually met the president of Russia? And the secretary of state sat next to an Arab in a headdress? Shocking!

I imagine DJT wishes picture 3 would go away too . . . .

[Brian]

I imagine DJT wishes picture 3 would go away too . . . .

Let alone...

In an 2008 interview with NY1, Trump praised Hillary Clinton and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, for their time in elected office.

Asked about Hillary Clinton's legacy, Trump said, "Well, I think her history is far from being over. I'd like to answer that question in another 15 years from now. I think she is going to go down at a minimum as a great senator. I think she is a great wife to a president. And I think Bill Clinton was a great president."

"You know you look at the country then," he continued. "The economy was doing great. Look at what happened during the Clinton years. I mean, we had no war, the economy was doing great, everybody was happy. A lot of people hated him because they were jealous as hell. You know people get jealous and they hate you."

"Bill Clinton was a great president. Hillary Clinton is a great woman and a good woman," he said in the interview.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/19/politics/trump-ny1-clintons/

[Zeus]

After reflecting on last night's debate, I have just one thing to say....

Thank you Hillary !!!

[snyprrr]

ah, so where are we this morning? How did the Russians do last night... errr... I mean...

[PerfectWagnerite]

After reflecting on last night's debate, I have just one thing to say....

Thank you Hillary !!!

Yes, it takes a mean bitch to slap down El Groper and I thank her for it also.

If he thinks she will be cowed by him then he is sadly mistaken. She is a rabid dog, she smells blood. The presidency and immense power is less than 3 weeks away. It's like Sauron smelling, feeling the Master Ring. Nothing is going to stop her now.

[kishnevi]

"Second amendment people" are those who care about having judges on the Supreme Court that will uphold the 2nd amendment.  They are not assassins.  "I'm gonna leave you in suspense" is Trump saying he won't rule out a legal challenge until he is satisfied that no fraud or irregularities occurred.

You skew his words to mean something "dangerous" instead of accepting his second amendment phrase was Trump getting his voters out in order to help him win, since after the election it was too late to avoid her putting judges on the Supreme Court that will undermine gun rights.

This has been the Clinton's MO, with help from the press and her supporters, to use innuendo and a whisper campaign to imply Trump is "dangerous" or un-American by reading into his statements something that is not there.

Disgusting.

No, there are some Second Amendment people who talk as if they think Hillary's election will be just and reasonable cause to take up arms against a tyrannical government.

Trump's statement in the debate could mean anything.

It is Trump's staff and TV surrogates who are talking reasonably.  Not Trump.

[Karl Henning]

It is Trump's staff and TV surrogates who are talking reasonably.  Not Trump.

Some of the surrogates, yes.  The key surrogates are as a rule scarcely less unhinged than the candidate.

[zamyrabyrd]

ah, so where are we this morning? How did the Russians do last night... errr... I mean...

Better to hibernate for the next two weeks. Wake me up when Spring comes.
Zamyra Bear

[Zeus]

Does anyone remember that video Bill Clinton made at the end of his two terms in the White House?  The one where he was so bored he's playing Battleship.  At one point he even goes chasing after Hillary with her lunch?

Well, here it is...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB5BfT1_PYQ

[San Antone]

So, there it is.  The GOP sowed the seeds of its own destruction by the elites' cynical misuse of its base.  Rubio or Ryan would have run a much stronger campaign against Clinton, but the disaffected masses roundly rejected the "respectable" candidates in favor of El Tupé;  and El Tupé had a ceiling which he was never going to crack, without becoming some other person.  Or anything human.  Yes, merely human would have been good.

Sadly I agree.  Looking back, Rubio would have been a stronger candidate, but even with 17 candidates, I was not impressed with who the Republicans put forward.  Btw, Ryan was not even running.

[zamyrabyrd]

Does anyone remember that video Bill Clinton made at the end of his two terms in the White House?  The one where he was so bored he's playing Battleship.  At one point he even goes chasing after Hillary with her lunch?
Well, here it is...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB5BfT1_PYQ

Talk about "puppet" when the woman was clearly pulling the strings. If she wins, it will be her 9th year.
Funny to consider conspiracy theories of Obama taking a 3rd term...

[zamyrabyrd]

Sadly I agree.  Looking back, Rubio would have been a stronger candidate, but even with 17 candidates, I was not impressed with who the Republicans put forward.  Btw, Ryan was not even running.

Still, I don't think any of them would have had a chance against her.
Look at Romney. Nice guys finish last...

[Karl Henning]

Sadly I agree.  Looking back, Rubio would have been a stronger candidate, but even with 17 candidates, I was not impressed with who the Republicans put forward.  Btw, Ryan was not even running.

Of course (both Mr Klein and I knew that )

[Karl Henning]

Look at Romney. Nice guys finish last...

He was careless, believed the Fox News bubble.  Again, it was entirely his race to lose, and in the middle of the debate cycle, he was in not merely a strong position, but IIRC had the advantage.  He didn't lose because he was nice (though I think that a reasonable adjective to apply to the former Governor of the Commonwealth);  it was a combination of his believing the favorably-hued reports, and being out-generalled.

[Herman]

Sadly I agree.  Looking back, Rubio would have been a stronger candidate, but even with 17 candidates, I was not impressed with who the Republicans put forward.  Btw, Ryan was not even running.

That's funny. Rubio was one of the most pathetic primary candidates. The only thing he had going for him was his looks.

You seem to have forgotten his robotic, stammering reiterations of the same canned lines.

Or maybe you think that's all it takes.

[San Antone]

Still, I don't think any of them would have had a chance against her.
Look at Romney. Nice guys finish last...

I disagree. 

The Republicans had the advantage in an election after a two-term Democrat.  Historically the party that has not had the presidency after a two-term president has won more often than not.  Also, Hillary Clinton represents essentially a status quo presidency, which highlights another historical trend which shifts the advantage to the candidate offering change. 

It was the Republicans election to lose.  A more disciplined candidate would have won walking away.

[San Antone]

That's funny. Rubio was one of the most pathetic primary candidates. The only thing he had going for him was his looks.

You seem to have forgotten his robotic, stammering reiterations of the same canned lines.

Or maybe you think that's all it takes.

As I said, I didn't like any of them.  But a robotic candidate who could deliver a disciplined message would have been enough against the second most flawed candidate running this year.

[Karl Henning]

That's funny. Rubio was one of the most pathetic primary candidates. The only thing he had going for him was his looks.

You seem to have forgotten his robotic, stammering reiterations of the same canned lines.

Or maybe you think that's all it takes.

I don't think this at all unfair.  Ideally, a good candidate learns to perform better.  It is certainly a more reasonable speculation, to suppose that Rubio could have become a credible candidate.  If El Tupé could morph into a president, I can morph into a porpoise.

[Karl Henning]

I disagree. 

The Republicans had the advantage in an election after a two-term Democrat.  Historically the party that has not had the presidency after a two-term president has won more often than not.  Also, Hillary Clinton represents essentially a status quo presidency, which highlights another historical trend which shifts the advantage to the candidate offering change. 

It was the Republicans election to lose.  A more disciplined candidate would have won walking away.

Obama was perhaps the most vulnerable incumbent candidate in my memory.