Countdown to Extinction: The 2016 Presidential Election

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Karl Henning

Quote from: Ken B on August 27, 2015, 08:33:10 AM
Actually, I am. I still say Trump won't win and won't run an independent campaign, because I think he's more motivated by ego, and actually losing in the vote is not what he wants. But I'm less confident of that now than I was. I posted something a while ago about Trump's indisputable competence in his past. We are seeing that on display now. Mixed in with the petulance, the egotism, the thin skin. It's certainly interesting.

At the very least, it is that.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: Ken B on August 27, 2015, 06:59:40 AM
I bet Trump doesn't acknowledge when he misrepresents people either.

Oh, get off your little snit, will you.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

Ken B

Quote from: (poco) Sforzando on August 27, 2015, 08:49:01 AM
Oh, get off your little snit, will you.

You know, I did think after I posted that comment about Trump I was perhaps being a little harsh. Now I don't think so.

Ken B

I had this vision of a campaign ad.

A dark room, indistinct. You see something glowing in the background.
Voice over: It is 3 a.m. Trouble erupts in a far corner of the world. Who do you want answering that secret email?
The lights come on and we see the room is a one-room apartment with an old Dell computer in the closet; the screen reads "You have mail."

Karl Henning

Quote from: Chris StirewaltClinton's net favorability rating among all voters – a more valuable general election metric in the early going than horse-race numbers – is now a dreadful negative 12 points.

[...]

Only 11 percent of Democrats said they would "definitely not" back Clinton compared to 26 for Trump with the GOP. Third-place GOP candidate Bush can be happy that a quarter of his party is keeping an open mind, but the grim news is that more than twice as many respondents would never consider supporting him (18 percent) than are currently backing his candidacy (7 percent). Only 9 percent of GOP respondents are waiting to hear more about Trump before making up their minds.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/08/27/dislike-for-hillary-intensifies/
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot


Karl Henning

Quote from: karlhenning on August 27, 2015, 09:28:32 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/08/27/dislike-for-hillary-intensifies/

Oh, but there's more!

Quote from: Chris StirewaltTRUMP'S NEW IOWA HIRE BUSTED TRASHING HIM

Iowa political personnel can be a tricky business, as Donald Trump can now attest. Trump's top hire in Iowa got busted in emails leaked to the Des Moines Register trashing his now-boss. In messages written as recently as last month, new Trump national co-chairman, Sam Clovis, who abandoned the struggling campaign of former Texas Gov. Rick Perry this week to work for Trump, calls the New York billionaire "a cancer on conservatism" and a man with "no foundation in Christ." Clovis said in one message that as a veteran he was "offended by a man who sought and gained four student deferments to avoid the draft and who has never served this nation a day — not a day — in any fashion or way." Clovis copped to the nastygrams, but said he had become convinced of Trump's merits and sincerity after he got the chance to "look [Trump] in the eye and ask him the tough questions."
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

ibanezmonster

Quote from: (poco) Sforzando on August 27, 2015, 06:38:30 AM
Trump is a sociopath, pure and simple.
That's why I won't vote for him. Sociopaths need to be rid of from the world, not voted for president.

One of those stupid people who you know the name of even if you never asked to. Might as well vote Kim Kardashian for president, who gives a fuck about these people.

Brian

Quote from: Greg on August 27, 2015, 10:28:11 AM
That's why I won't vote for him. Sociopaths need to be rid of from the world, not voted for president.
Wait, get rid of like eliminated? It's a mental illness...

Quote from: Greg on August 27, 2015, 10:28:11 AM
Might as well vote Kim Kardashian for president, who gives a fuck about these people.
I think I've mentioned this before, but I think Jay Z would be a damn good president.

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: Ken B on August 27, 2015, 06:59:40 AM
I bet Trump doesn't acknowledge when he misrepresents people either.

Since you're determined to keep justifying yourself, let's look at what you actually said: "Trump, like Obama, regardless of facts or substance projects an image of what people want to see in their country." No qualifications on these "people," no nuance. There was no reading impairment on my part.

I remember another time when you attacked me for alleged "reading impairment," when I in fact quoted your exact words to make my point. So let's knock off the accusations, OK? I'm not impressed.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

Todd

Quote from: Brian on August 27, 2015, 10:38:22 AMWait, get rid of like eliminated? It's a mental illness...



It is indeed.  I wonder if Trump has been diagnosed as a sociopath by a mental health professional.
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

Brian

Quote from: Todd on August 27, 2015, 10:45:29 AM


It is indeed.  I wonder if Trump has been diagnosed as a sociopath by a mental health professional.
I've seen narcissistic personality disorder mentioned by a lot of the types of mental health professionals who appear on TV without interviewing the celebrity in question. I've never seen sociopathy mentioned.

ibanezmonster

Quote from: Brian on August 27, 2015, 10:38:22 AM
Wait, get rid of like eliminated? It's a mental illness...
It's something to think about... what percentage of the dictators throughout world history are sociopaths, I wonder?


Quote from: Brian on August 27, 2015, 10:38:22 AM
I think I've mentioned this before, but I think Jay Z would be a damn good president.
Meh. Deez Nuts 2016.

Karl Henning

Quote from: Todd on August 27, 2015, 10:45:29 AM
It is indeed.  I wonder if Trump has been diagnosed as a sociopath by a mental health professional.

If so, it would have to be by a winner!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Todd

Quote from: Brian on August 27, 2015, 10:52:50 AMI've seen narcissistic personality disorder mentioned by a lot of the types of mental health professionals who appear on TV without interviewing the celebrity in question.



I see. 

The words "psychopath" and "sociopath", and the lengthier yet NPD, are nifty ways to say something mean about someone while appearing to be very serious rather than petty.
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

Ken B

Quote from: karlhenning on August 27, 2015, 10:21:09 AM
Oh, but there's more!

oops. Not a good career move. Not a very flattering reflection on a guy who can take a job trying to get a man he thinks so ill of elected. But I'm not sure it's all trashing Trump. Some of it is reassuring to hear!
>:D :laugh:

Todd

Quote from: Greg on August 27, 2015, 10:58:10 AMIt's something to think about... what percentage of the dictators throughout world history are sociopaths, I wonder?



Somewhere between 0% and 100%.  How would one diagnose a long dead dictator?  At any rate, I would think the word "dictator" sufficiently bad that a qualifier like "sociopathic" is unnecessary.
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: Todd on August 27, 2015, 11:00:03 AM


I see. 

The words "psychopath" and "sociopath", and the lengthier yet NPD, are nifty ways to say something mean about someone while appearing to be very serious rather than petty.

Nice try, but a condition does not require a diagnosis in order to exist.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

Karl Henning

Quote from: Ken B on August 27, 2015, 11:01:27 AM
oops. Not a good career move. Not a very flattering reflection on a guy who can take a job trying to get a man he thinks so ill of elected. But I'm not sure it's all trashing Trump. Some of it is reassuring to hear!
>:D :laugh:

I know: "no foundation in Christ" as character assassination.  That that, Jewish friends!  0:)
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Oh, but I am forgetting that a foundation in Christ is a pre-requisite for the POTUS . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot