Countdown to Extinction: The 2016 Presidential Election

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André

"Yurp" ? Is this a solecism, a barbarism, a sloppyism, or just another american way of showing contempt ? I doubt that it will ever raise to the level of diplomatic terms. Nigger, Jap, now Yurp ? I'm sure it's not meant that way, but suppose it's understood differently by those who "happen" to also read English ?  ::)

Ken B

Quote from: André on July 22, 2016, 01:26:09 PM
"Yurp" ? Is this a solecism, a barbarism, a sloppyism, or just another american way of showing contempt ? I doubt that it will ever raise to the level of diplomatic terms. Nigger, Jap, now Yurp ? I'm sure it's not meant that way, but suppose it's understood differently by those who "happen" to also read English ?  ::)

What is "Yank"?

kishnevi

Quote from: André on July 22, 2016, 01:26:09 PM
"Yurp" ? Is this a solecism, a barbarism, a sloppyism, or just another american way of showing contempt ? I doubt that it will ever raise to the level of diplomatic terms. Nigger, Jap, now Yurp ? I'm sure it's not meant that way, but suppose it's understood differently by those who "happen" to also read English ?  ::)

It pokes fun at that segment of the population which is most hostile to modern European government.  The same ones who thought Kerry's fondness for things French was a symptom of unAmericanism.

Say Europe with a down home Boss Hogg drawl....

André


Pat B

Quote from: Todd on July 22, 2016, 08:55:06 AM
Probably, but the bigger thing here is that Trump is the first Republican presidential nominee to speak openly about the subject in an acceptance speech.  His unscripted blurb, no doubt thought out ahead of time, is a nice addendum.

I agree, that was a nice touch. And some Rs (e.g. Kasich) have called to leave the marriage issue behind, which while not exactly inspiring leadership, is at least a sensible position. Of course, some other Rs say Trump and Kasich are just RINOs.

The 2016 Republican platform contains not just the expected anti-gay planks (overturn Obergefell, support anti-gay discrimination) but also a clause by anti-gay wingnut Tony Perkins in support of conversion therapy for gay children. They made it vaguer than what Perkins initially requested, but I don't think that will fool many.

Todd

Quote from: André on July 22, 2016, 01:26:09 PM
"Yurp" ? Is this a solecism, a barbarism, a sloppyism, or just another american way of showing contempt ? I doubt that it will ever raise to the level of diplomatic terms. Nigger, Jap, now Yurp ? I'm sure it's not meant that way, but suppose it's understood differently by those who "happen" to also read English ?  ::)


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Quote from: Pat B on July 22, 2016, 02:28:50 PMOf course, some other Rs say Trump and Kasich are just RINOs.


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Herman

Quote from: André on July 22, 2016, 01:26:09 PM
"Yurp" ?

It's a Bushism.

Just like the way he managed to make "terrorism" a duo-syllabic word.

André

I see. We have turned into bushists, then. Trrism in Yurp.  ???

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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Herman on July 23, 2016, 10:10:02 AM
It's a Bushism.

Just like the way he managed to make "terrorism" a duo-syllabic word.

It is only a Bushism to the extent that Bush was a Texan, and he spoke like one. Texans were calling it Yurp before GW was born, and will be long after all of us here are dead. BTW, it IS one syllable, but it doesn't rhyme with 'burp', it is more like 'yourp', where the 'you' part is pronounced like the pronoun. In addition, people who come from there are called 'You're-peens', 2 syllables. It isn't intended in any way to be derogatory, it's just the way we talk. Y'all (another Texanism, which doesn't mean Herman specifically) have just made it seem that way because you don't like W. Well, just so you know, we don't all like him either, although being generally more fair and understanding than most people, we try to see all sides.   :)

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Herman

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on July 23, 2016, 12:13:06 PM
It is only a Bushism to the extent that Bush was a Texan, and he spoke like one. Texans were calling it Yurp before GW was born, and will be long after all of us here are dead.

I guess it was introduced, "Yurp", when Dubua was elected president and cartoonists got started on him.

That's where I got it. And I have been using the word ever since, just for fun.

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Herman on July 23, 2016, 12:24:31 PM
I guess it was introduced, "Yurp", when Dubua was elected president and cartoonists got started on him.

That's where I got it. And I have been using the word ever since, just for fun.

Certainly, and why not?   :)  I remember getting 'vee-hickle' from LBJ when I still lived in New England and finding it highly amusing. Hell, now I say it! :o  :)

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André

Is there another way to pronounce it ?

So there. You think something is new and special until you realize it's been there all along  ::)

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: André on July 23, 2016, 04:14:03 PM
Is there another way to pronounce it ?

So there. You think something is new and special until you realize it's been there all along  ::)

Before Lyndon, I had only ever heard VEE-a-cull, with no aitch in the middle. I guess that's what caught my ear. However, if you were a Texan asking that question, I'd'a just said 'nope'.   :D

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Ken B

What "Yurp" REALLY is is mockery of someone else's accent.
What do we usually think of people who mock accents?

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Herman

Quote from: Ken B on July 23, 2016, 06:06:16 PM
What "Yurp" REALLY is is mockery of someone else's accent.
What do we usually think of people who mock accents?

I don't know. I never think "usually".

But I'm guessing it's very bad to mock an upper-crust Yalie from a dynasty of millionaires slash politicians who adopted a folksy accent to sound more natchral.