Countdown to Extinction: The 2016 Presidential Election

[Karl Henning]

Y'know, I'd love to see some more of that "hyper def" art like that extraordinarily brilliant photo with the fugees and the lifevests.

Your agenda is this conspiracy theorizing, based on "I cannot believe that color is right, so I KNOW it's fake."

And your inability to admit you may be mistaken; you cannot let it go.

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[snyprrr]

Your agenda is this conspiracy theorizing, based on "I cannot believe that color is right, so I KNOW it's fake."

And your inability to admit you may be mistaken; you cannot let it go.

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No no, that's fine. Don't I always admit I'm a tech zero? Don't I even need help getting my own "damning evidence" on the Forum. So, come on Karl, I would wither under cross-examination from anyone with even the slightest more ... uh... capacity than I do. If the whole Forum says it's 100%, I am certainly not the one to voice the objection.

At least a few people did notice the supposed anomaly. The response seems to be, "Gosh, tech these days. It's so amazing." So, you know, I don't know shit so what am I supposed to say?

IF IF IF what I suspected is true, that, say, the NYT would put a blatant PhotoShop on their Front Page, then, I would guess, there'll be other opportunities, right?, since lying liars can't help but just lie lie lie. If I'm wrong, and they're The Golden Boys and Girls of Justice and Good, and No One Ever Does This In Major Serious Media, then, well, even if there are "suspect" photos, I guess I'll just go along with everyone else and just say, "Gosh, it's a really digital photo," and then just whistle along on my way.

Because only Stalin ever did that.


I get it. We defeated evil like that. The last thing we have to worry about is who why where how and when of the NYT. Biased or not, their Front Page Photo can be trusted.

And it's just crazy to think anything else.



Barring any clinical forensic autopsy on the actual photo itself, I, snyprrr, hereby defer the conversation about this one photo to the GMG Forum Group Think Opinion Poll. You can simply colour me just absolutely enchanted by today's modern technology, and how it makes such startling photographs.

What else would you have me say?


So, after handing you my ass on a platter, how can I still have an agenda? I'm "Only for the Truth" and all that safe-as-milk stuff. You know that.

Still doesn't explain how Building 7 collapsed just like the other two, into dust in their own footprint, when no plane hit it. But, you know, that's just something else and not this photo and blah b;lah blabl a

[snyprrr]

Seriously, am I the only Politically Pure person on this Forum?

[snyprrr]

Your agenda is this conspiracy theorizing, based on "I cannot believe that color is right, so I KNOW it's fake."

And your inability to admit you may be mistaken; you cannot let it go.

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Again, sarge's photo that he was kind enough to Post, without smart ass comment mind you!!, has rendered the entire conversation obsolete and of no value. If Sarge's pic is real, then the whole standards and practices of determining these things has to be done differently. The EYE, the HUMAN eye can no longer "believe what it sees", even though it's "real". These pictures aren't really meant for human eyes... "hyper" real,... oh joy.

[snyprrr]

And wow, it seems the whole Forum sees this as Clinton's Last day. Not a peep. Very creepy 'round here.

Hellooooooooo

[Parsifal]

And wow, it seems the whole Forum sees this as Clinton's Last day. Not a peep. Very creepy 'round here.

Hellooooooooo

As a (somewhat reluctant) supporter of Clinton, of course I am concerned about her health at this point. She has debates to prepare for and participate in and a heavy schedule of campaigning ahead. And Trump will surely exploit it. But the fact that a 68 year old woman should get run-down and ill after maintaining a grueling, extended campaign schedule does not require a conspiracy theory.

[zamyrabyrd]

Hillary Needs Obamacare Baaad!!!

Questions to ask the learned physicians:
Were the other loss of consciousness episodes also due to pneumonia?
Should a doctor allow a pneumonia suffering patient to sashay down Madison Avenue, saying "I feel fine"?
(She might faint again!)

[Johnnie Burgess]

Questions to ask the learned physicians:
Were the other loss of consciousness episodes also due to pneumonia?
Should a doctor allow a pneumonia suffering patient to sashay down Madison Avenue, saying "I feel fine"?
(She might faint again!)

She could pass the pneumonia to others around her by going out.

[zamyrabyrd]

My argument wasn't so much that if one cares about religious terrorism one mustn't care about gun deaths. It was more that obsessing about religious terrorism in the USA shows a lack of a sense of proportion, given the number of people that actually die.

Sorry, you're not going to get away with such an imputation, moreover on the 15th anniversary of 9/11. Religious motivated terrorism is a GLOBAL problem. 2,977 people were killed in one day with 6000 wounded. These were not just drive-by or gang shootings. The toll in physical and property damage was enormous, plus those who died prematurely from inhalation of toxic substances that caused cancers and other illnesses.

This is not the first time you make your own incorrect conclusions based on your own prejudice. I looked up my own posts looking for evidence of your accusations of my allegedly calling others ridiculous and following those comments with three exclamation points. I didn't find any. You can throw around words all you want and accuse me of a lack of proportion based on your own agenda. If you were in my sights rather than hiding behind a computer I would call you the "l"' word.

[zamyrabyrd]

She could pass the pneumonia to others around her by going out.

Just think all those toxic germs she propelled in her coughing fits!
But seriously, I have had pneumonia and you don't just pop up out of bed to walk down the street.
Whatever the illness or condition, the ONLY decent and responsible thing to do is bow out of the race!
The meta-problem though, unadmitted even to herself which makes it tragic, is the inability to accept limitations.
Physically, she is over the hill.
It happens, like to ballet dancers, singers and prize-fighters.
A person who does not want to recognize it becomes his or her worst enemy, in fact, upping the probability of more collapses.
It must be terrible, focusing all your energies from one's youth towards a goal and see it slip away right before the finish line because one's body couldn't take it anymore.
This actually happened to a friend of mine, who got to the upper echelons on Wall Street and suffered big-time burnout.
The problem is not the ambition but the self-punishment involved that wants payback when you don't expect it.
My opinion is it is not so much what H is suffering from but pushing an already tired horse as a recipe for disaster.
To speculate on what is wrong with her comes in the absence of any creditable information from her side.
Why does she need to be propped up with pillows or have to lean on helpers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZLnQjMsyvc

The Democratic party can surely supply healthy 40 and 50 year olds as candidates.
Drop out now and do yourself and the country a favor, Ms H!!!

[Johnnie Burgess]

Just think all those toxic germs she propelled in her coughing fits!
But seriously, I have had pneumonia and you don't just pop up out of bed to walk down the street.
Whatever the illness or condition, the ONLY decent and responsible thing to do is bow out of the race!
The meta-problem though, unadmitted even to herself which makes it tragic, is the inability to accept limitations.
Physically, she is over the hill.
It happens, like to ballet dancers, singers and prize-fighters.
A person who does not want to recognize it becomes his or her worst enemy, in fact, upping the probability of more collapses.
It must be terrible, focusing all your energies from one's youth towards a goal and see it slip away right before the finish line because one's body couldn't take it anymore.
This actually happened to a friend of mine, who got to the upper echelons on Wall Street and suffered big-time burnout.
The problem is not the ambition but the self-punishment involved that wants payback when you don't expect it.
My opinion is it is not so much what H is suffering from but pushing an already tired horse as a recipe for disaster.
To speculate on what is wrong with her comes in the absence of any creditable information from her side.
Why does she need to be propped up with pillows or have to lean on helpers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZLnQjMsyvc

The Democratic party can surely supply healthy 40 and 50 year olds as candidates.
Drop out now and do yourself and the country a favor, Ms H!!!

Maybe not during the Obama years the democrats have lost over 900+ state legislature seats, and 12 governors, 13 Senate seats and 69 House seats.

No one younger than 60 ran this time for the democrats.  Sure Hillary curses thinking how Obama cost her 8 years.

[Eli]

It sure seems to be a God given opportunity this election for a third party to have a real shot.

[Johnnie Burgess]

It sure seems to be a God given opportunity this election for a third party to have a real shot.

Maybe but both 3rd party canidates have done dumb things.

Gary Johnson: "What is Aleppo?"
Jill Stein arrested in a protest.

[zamyrabyrd]

Maybe not during the Obama years the democrats have lost over 900+ state legislature seats, and 12 governors, 13 Senate seats and 69 House seats. No one younger than 60 ran this time for the democrats.  Sure Hillary curses thinking how Obama cost her 8 years.

Baby-boomers won't just give up, or maybe they are still a larger demographic chunk with built up power structures protecting themselves.
The point about seizures (someone mentioned that her feet were not limp as in actual fainting) is anxiety about their happening again makes for increased possibility of just that.
A funny conspiracy theory is Hillary actually crawling through the last lap to the WH but Obama feeling compelled to extend his own presidency due to her inability to function. So he might trump her in the end!

[zamyrabyrd]

It sure seems to be a God given opportunity this election for a third party to have a real shot.

If she drops out (probability near zero, unless really forced to), then a 3rd or 4th party might have a chance.

[Johnnie Burgess]

Baby-boomers won't just give up, or maybe they are still a larger demographic chunk with built up power structures protecting themselves.
The point about seizures (someone mentioned that her feet were not limp as in actual fainting) is anxiety about their happening again makes for increased possibility of just that.
A funny conspiracy theory is Hillary actually crawling through the last lap to the WH but Obama feeling compelled to extend his own presidency due to her inability to function. So he might trump her in the end!

No one knows what would happen if she were to win and then die before taking office.  That has never happened.

[Madiel]

Sorry, you're not going to get away with such an imputation, moreover on the 15th anniversary of 9/11. Religious motivated terrorism is a GLOBAL problem. 2,977 people were killed in one day with 6000 wounded. These were not just drive-by or gang shootings. The toll in physical and property damage was enormous, plus those who died prematurely from inhalation of toxic substances that caused cancers and other illnesses.

This is not the first time you make your own incorrect conclusions based on your own prejudice. I looked up my own posts looking for evidence of your accusations of my allegedly calling others ridiculous and following those comments with three exclamation points. I didn't find any. You can throw around words all you want and accuse me of a lack of proportion based on your own agenda. If you were in my sights rather than hiding behind a computer I would call you the "l"' word.

Congratulations. We have reached the point where I truly can't be arsed.

[Eli]

If she drops out (probability near zero, unless really forced to), then a 3rd or 4th party might have a chance.

The debates should be interesting! Two weeks from now? She is really going to have to give a very strong showing there. Can we really have a president Trump? It's too late for anyone else like Bloomberg to enter right? He must be kicking himself.

[Johnnie Burgess]

The debates should be interesting! Two weeks from now? She is really going to have to give a very strong showing there. Can we really have a president Trump? It's too late for anyone else like Bloomberg to enter right? He must be kicking himself.

If Bloomberg had entered the race with Hillary in the race, Trump would win in a landslid.

[zamyrabyrd]

No one knows what would happen if she were to win and then die before taking office.  That has never happened.

This possibility gives rise to speculations about Obama doing something arbitrary, like to preserve "public order".  The normal sequences though would be the Veep, then Speaker of the House. Some presidents became incapacitated towards the ends of terms like Wilson and FDR. There is no rock to hide under these days. It would be funny though to have Bill as the power behind the throne this time with her POA.!
The unpredictability of her illness is the worrying part, but not only that, the treatment and drugs given with side effects (as for her "concussion").