Countdown to Extinction: The 2016 Presidential Election

[Karl Henning]

Lock him up! Lock him up!

Trump's foundation is under investigation. Should he step aside?

What if criminal charges are brought? If Trump were elected and then subject to criminal prosecution, he would be subject to impeachment. Trump's claim to be the law-and-order candidate was always ridiculous; now it is a punch line.

Trumpkins had argued, not without justification, that if the FBI had made a recommendation to prosecute Hillary Clinton, it would force her to back out of the race. Surely the same standard should apply in Trump's case. And if the investigation is not complete by Election Day, how can voters elect someone whose tenure could be immediately cut short by criminal proceedings? Trump, of course, is already facing trial in a fraud case alleging that he swindled thousands of dollars from Trump University students. In other words, is Trump a crook?

[Rinaldo]

wHAT HAVE i SAID THAT WAS CRAZY?

Where to begin..

(I still don't believe you're for real)

[snyprrr]

Where to begin..

(I still don't believe you're for real)

oh they're real all right






btw- read any good GucciferLeaks yet, like Colin Powell lamenting Bill still "dicking bimbos" at the house? Or Huma giving Hill credit for the "peeceful" pr0tests??

Why isn't GMG interested in all the billions of released secret correspondences going on in the world? Seems to be the entertainment of the century, no?

[Parsifal]

oh they're real all right






btw- read any good GucciferLeaks yet, like Colin Powell lamenting Bill still "dicking bimbos" at the house? Or Huma giving Hill credit for the "peeceful" pr0tests??

Why isn't GMG interested in all the billions of released secret correspondences going on in the world? Seems to be the entertainment of the century, no?

Snyprrr, you've gone over the top. You're so relentlessly crazy you've become boring. 

[snyprrr]

Snyprrr, you've gone over the top. You're so relentlessly crazy you've become boring. 

Happy Days "Jump the Shark" Episode


I guess I'll take that as a "No"?   But, honestly, thank you, I feel like I just won some kind of award 0:) 0:) Guess I'm going to DisneyWorld?

[snyprrr]

relentlessly crazy

does kinda have a ring to it, dont it?

[Karl Henning]

Back in the day, you occasionally saw cranks on a street corner handing out mimeographed handbills arguing that FDR was responsible for Pearl Harbor, but you saw their bad haircuts, the bitterness in their eyes, and you turned away. Now they're in your computer, whispering that the economy is on the verge of collapse and for a few bucks they'll tell you how to protect your savings.

[snyprrr]

and the lolz wuz had by all... time for me to punch out, see ya tomorrow!!

Back in the day, you occasionally saw cranks on a street corner handing out mimeographed handbills arguing that FDR was responsible for Pearl Harbor, but you saw their bad haircuts, the bitterness in their eyes, and you turned away. Now they're in your computer, whispering that the economy is on the verge of collapse and for a few bucks they'll tell you how to protect your savings.

but the HistoryChannel said FDR knew. Karl,... the HistoryChannel

[Rinaldo]

Cheers.

[North Star]

https://www.youtube.com/v/hBweUnkfQ2E

[Herman]

Wow, Warren Buffet 25 years ago! Economic prophet without a church! We're all holding the bag for the failures of the big spenders and big talkers.

let's see... big spender, big talker.... who fits the picture best?

that would be Trump, spending other people's money, talking about how very very rich he is, and that he has the best brain etc etc ad inf.

[André]

Colin Powell on Trump and Clinton

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/14/politics/colin-powell-dcleaks/index.html

[Herman]

Hillary wrote her college thesis on Saul Alinsky. Wonder where she got all those ideas of socialized medicine that she tried to ram through during her husband's presidency. If it ain't broke, don't fix it! The bureaucracy is incredible now trying to get treatment under "Affordable Care" (my son can tell you all about that) which turns out to be more expensive and as in any socialist state, there is no opting out.

The US health care system used to be one of the most expensive and least cost-effective. Plus tens of millions of US citizens weren't even in it. That's why it was broke, maybe not for you, but surely as a self-proclaimed Christian, you're aware, soemwhere, that there are other people too, and maybe some of them need help.

You also seem to be unaware that most Western democratic nations have a some form of collective healthcare; none of those countries are even remotely "socialist", in that the means of production are neither nationalized nor collective. They do however try to be civilized.

But there is something else that may be a game changer. If Hillary's medical issues are neurological, they are not going to get better.

Try looking up pneumonia on google.

Stress and anxiety only compound the problem. Fear of yet another attack almost guarantees it happening again. Someone might have a talk with her to disabuse her of further self-abuse. If she wants to press on, she may be forced to concede. The DNC can choose another candidate that may very well be Biden. A person like may turn out to be the jack-in-the-box no one thought about (making a lot of what has been bandied around here somewhat irrelevant).

if only you would know how misogynist this all sounds*. You desperately want the woman candidate talked to. This silly bad woman needs to be conducted out of the room, and then some uncle figure can take over. No more women, ever.

*Yes, we know you're a woman yourself.

[drogulus]

     It's a proven fact you can't rule the world if you've had pneumonia or your husband is a critter (SomeOne I Know defined "critter" as what Bill Clinton is with women).

     Ok, cards on the table time.....I get a bit irked (?) by this foundation thing, it's too Clintonian by half with it's good works, friends of friends of BillHill and so forth. The family seem to have created a kind of "appearance of appearance of wrongdoing". Why do all their dealings appear worse than they likely are? The foundation is respected, it's not at all a sham or a front (I checked), so how do they manage to make it look so bad?

[zamyrabyrd]

Try looking up pneumonia on google. if only you would know how misogynist this all sounds*. You desperately want the woman candidate talked to. This silly bad woman needs to be conducted out of the room, and then some uncle figure can take over. No more women, ever. *Yes, we know you're a woman yourself.

I was thinking seriously of bowing out of this race and let the cards fall where they may in two months: "Que sera, sera."
It is symptomatic of a weak argument to have to bash the bearer of bad news. I don't need to be called or inferred a misogynist for bringing up the real medical concerns of a near 70 year old woman. Cumulatively, it doesn't look good at all for any person, man or woman, who aspires to be in the most demanding position of the US:

Clinton suffered her first blood clot in 1998 while she was First Lady and experienced a second incident in 2009
She suffered a concussion after falling in her home in 2013 near the end of her tenure as secretary of state
Her doctors say she has deep vein thrombosis, which can lead to clotting in leg veins
She suffered a blood clot in her brain in December 2011 and takes blood thinners to treat her condition
She has been diagnosed with hypothyroidism
Broke her elbow, as spokesman warned it would crimp her texting
Clinton collapsed when she left a 9/11 ceremony early on Sunday. Her office finally revealed she has pneumonia

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3786187/Three-blood-clots-concussion-deep-vein-thrombosis-Hillary-Clinton-s-shielded-medical-history-isn-t-just-conspiracy-theorists-penchant-privacy-gets-scrutiny.html

I don't need to be talked down to about pneumonia as I have had over the years severe bronchial problems. If she had it once, only recently, then what is the explanation for the other fainting fits? This doctor believes that the concussion (after a fall) was the result, not the cause, of underlying neurological problems.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPq7JiU7Bms

There are other characteristics that fit this hypothesis rather than a one time pneumonia. Why didn't she go to the ER on 9/11? If she had a fever why was she out on the street again after 2 hours? This is really goofy, but typical of all the schlock we are supposed to believe coming out of her camp. I won't go into the emails that no one can make head or tail from all the obfuscation. As for your "socialized medicine", it is common for those who can afford better treatment without having to wait long queues to get "private" doctors. Surely, Hillary would not stoop to mix with the masses in a crowded waiting room.

From a woman's point of view, she fits the type who simply won't give up, an Amazon who would cut off one of her boobs so she could shoot better with her bow and arrow. The problem in ignoring one's limitations, there comes a point where biology fights back and demands payment with a vengeance. Any suspicion of neurological problems is extremely serious. Nowhere on google does it say that one gets bug eyes, bobble head and knee buckling from pneumonia.

That said, I am out of here.

[Herman]

If I were shaking thousands of unwashed hands all day, for the entire year, and kiss the odd baby in between, skip a lot of time zones flying and sleep maybe six hours a night, and have to speak loudly for at least three hours a day there is no chance in hell I wouldn't get sick.

Trump doesn't shake hands.

[knight66]

Here is an American woman's take on the misogyny that shadows attitudes to Clinton's health.

_{http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/14/hillary-clinton-pneumonia-prejudices-sexism-women?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other}


Surely this is the most brutal and brutalising campaign in the USA in living memory. I suppose the polarisation of attitudes, where there is nil respect between each side, for the candidate or beliefs of the opponents, prompts this willingness to go ever lower to gain political advantage.

In the UK we have made a very stupid choice. The mud is so deep that the politicians have not yet touched any rock bottom on which to stand. I hope that in the US you manage to avoid what could be an even worse disaster. I am taken aback at how close the race remains: when Trump should surely have rulled himself out for sane voters way before now.

Best of luck folks.

Mike

[Karl Henning]

I appreciate the good wishes, Mike.

[Karl Henning]

Despite gestures, Trump is the least transparent presidential nominee in modern U.S. history

Donald Trump made what his campaign billed as two major disclosures on Wednesday. First, an attorney provided a timeline of his Slovenia-born wife's immigration status. Then, amid questions about his health during a television interview, Trump pulled some medical test results out of his blazer pocket.

Isn't that enough?

[(poco) Sforzando]

Snyprrr, you've gone over the top.

You just noticed?