Your Top Five Favorite American Symphonies

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Daverz

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on April 18, 2015, 10:53:30 AM
My list would be filled with Ives and Glass only.  8)
Although I'm too sick today to decide which ones to include.  :(

I probably should have included some Glass on my list.

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He's been very prolific in the genre, but I haven't caught up to the later stuff.

TheGSMoeller

Quote from: vandermolen on April 18, 2015, 11:44:52 AM
Hope you feel better soon.

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Quote from: Sergeant Rock on April 18, 2015, 11:52:21 AM
I'll help you, Greg:

Ives 1
Ives 2
Ives 3
Ives 4
Ives Holidays

There you go. Perfect...well, no Glass, but as I said, perfect 8)

Sarge

:D Still a great list!

71 dB

Quote from: Daverz on April 18, 2015, 01:50:43 PM
I probably should have included some Glass on my list.

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He's been very prolific in the genre, but I haven't caught up to the later stuff.

Glass would definitely be on my list if I could make one.  :)
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Quote from: 71 dB on April 18, 2015, 11:52:40 PM
Glass would definitely be on my list if I could make one.  :)
Yes, but then you don't know any (real) American symphonies, as you yourself mentioned.

Mirror Image

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on April 15, 2015, 03:44:29 AM
Bernstein, Symphony № 2, The Age of Anxiety
Schuman, Symphony № 9, Le fosse ardeatine

Both of these have turned into favorites of mine, although I've never had any issues with Bernstein's Age of Anxiety as it was Schuman's 9th that I didn't know quite how to take, but certainly appreciate and even enjoy more now than I ever have.

Mirror Image

Quote from: 71 dB on April 16, 2015, 10:03:00 AM
Frankly I don't think I have even one "favorite" American Symphony. I wouldn't probably even noticed if all American Symphonies vanished away... ...that's how ignorant I am.

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To the bolded text, you never said it any better then you did right there.

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Some changes must be made!

(In no particular order) -

Ives: Symphony No. 4
Barber: Symphony No. 2
Copland: Short Symphony (Symphony No. 2)
Diamond: Symphony No. 3
Harris: Symphony No. 6, "Gettysburg"

kyjo

Copland 3
Hanson 2
Barber 1
Piston 2 (mainly for its heart-wrenching slow movement)
Mennin 5

But I feel bad for leaving out Bernstein 1...
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SymphonicAddict

We agree with some kyjo  ;D

Barber 1
Hanson 2
Copland 3
Chadwick 3
Hovhaness 50

Mirror Image

Quote from: SymphonicAddict on September 18, 2017, 01:12:19 PM
We agree with some kyjo  ;D

Barber 1
Hanson 2
Copland 3
Chadwick 3
Hovhaness 50

Chadwick? Really? Strange choice.

SymphonicAddict

Quote from: Mirror Image on September 18, 2017, 03:55:11 PM
Chadwick? Really? Strange choice.

I wanted to choose a composer not so well-known but still worth listening to. It's not that a modern symphony a la Ives. I find it charming. It's my favorite American romantic symphony.

Mirror Image

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Quote from: SymphonicAddict on September 18, 2017, 04:26:29 PM
I wanted to choose a composer not so well-known but still worth listening to. It's not that a modern symphony a la Ives. I find it charming. It's my favorite American romantic symphony.

I've heard it before of course, but it's been years ago. The whole generation of American composers that predate Ives like Horatio Parker, Arthur Foote, Edwin MacDowell, among others seem to rely heavily on European models and that's fine, but often times their music comes across as lacking in individuality. I'd say my favorite Romantic American symphony is Ives' 1st, which shows the influence of his teacher, Horatio Parker. I do find Amy Beach pretty interesting, although I'd say her chamber music is much more inventive than her orchestral music.

SymphonicAddict

Quote from: Mirror Image on September 18, 2017, 04:31:49 PM
I've heard it before of course, but it's been years ago. The whole generation of American composers that predate Ives like Horatio Parker, Arthur Foote, Edwin MacDowell, among others seem to rely heavily on European models and that's fine, but often times their music comes across as lacking in individuality. I'd say my favorite Romantic American symphony is Ives' 1st, which shows the influence of his teacher, Horatio Parker. I do find Amy Beach pretty interesting, although I'd say her chamber music is much more inventive than her orchestral music.

Beach is nice, too. It's another good example of American pre-modern symphonies. In terms of innovation and creativity, Ives would be the best choice. BTW, I need to get reacquainted his symphonies, which some time ago I don't listen to.

Mirror Image

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Quote from: SymphonicAddict on September 18, 2017, 06:24:27 PM
Beach is nice, too. It's another good example of American pre-modern symphonies. In terms of innovation and creativity, Ives would be the best choice. BTW, I need to get reacquainted his symphonies, which some time ago I don't listen to.

If you need any recommendations, don't hesitate to ask. Michael Tilson Thomas, Andrew Litton, Leonard Bernstein, and James Sinclair are always great choices in this repertoire.

SymphonicAddict

Quote from: Mirror Image on September 18, 2017, 07:06:54 PM
If you need any recommendations, don't hesitate to ask. Michael Tilson Thomas, Andrew Litton, Leonard Bernstein, and James Sinclair always always great choices in this repertoire.

Thanks. I have the Tilson Thomas (Sony) and the Litton (Hyperion). I remember the Tilson Thomas' performance was better than the Litton.

vandermolen

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I've come to really appreciate Bernstein's 'Age of Anxiety' recently. Especially in Bernstein's DGG version - a great disc as it's coupled with 'Jeremiah'.
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Harris 3
Diamond 2
Del Tredici: Alice Symphony
Mennin 5
Carter Symphonia
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Christo

Quote from: vandermolen on September 19, 2017, 10:45:36 PMI've come to really appreciate Bernstein's 'Age of Anxiety' recently. Especially in Bernstein's DGG version - a great disc as its coupled with 'Jeremiah'.
Seconded. Anything stemming from a cooperation of both Lenny and my favourite non-Dutch poet & thinker should make a 'heavy' impression.  8)
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Quote from: Christo on September 19, 2017, 11:14:28 PM
Seconded. Anything stemming from a cooperation of both Lenny and my favourite non-Dutch poet & thinker should make a 'heavy' impression.  8)

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Mirror Image

Quote from: springrite on September 19, 2017, 10:51:24 PM
Should I try again?


Harris 3
Diamond 2
Del Tredici: Alice Symphony
Mennin 5
Carter Symphonia

What's Del Tredici's Alice Symphony like, Paul?

Christo

... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948