Most bombastic composers of the 20th/21st century?

Started by EigenUser, April 21, 2015, 01:51:41 AM

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kishnevi

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No one seems to have mentioned an obvious contender


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Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Cato on April 21, 2015, 10:06:39 AM
The composer may have been naturally bombastic   :laugh:

The moustache is a dead giveaway  ;D




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Quote from: North Star on April 21, 2015, 07:14:55 AM
You're banned for life from the Ravel fan club. 'Bombastic' doesn't mean just loud, you know.  >:(

Strauss, Respighi, Mahler, Messiaen, Leifs, and even Shostakovich certainly indulged occasionally. And Orff.
I guess bombastic is really not quite the right word. Even with Messiaen, his music is loud with a ton of meaning -- joy. Some of the joyous music composed. Not just an "oh, how nice" kind of thing, but an almost-literally blinding glory. That isn't a subtle thing and it shouldn't sound like one.

The opposite of what I am trying to describe would be something like Debussy La Mer or a lot of Ligeti -- things that are very subtle. They certainly have loud moments, but they are restrained.
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".


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the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
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Ken B

Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on April 21, 2015, 10:23:19 AM
No one seems to have mentioned an obvious contender


ETA
That is Karl Heinz down front.
Composers.

EigenUser

Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".

DaveF

Taking "bombastic" to mean a glaring mismatch between quality of material and the volume at which it's pumped out, Malcolm Arnold and Robert Simpson seem quite at home in this thread.
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jfdrex

Discuss:  Reinhold Glière, Symphony No. 3 ('Ilya Muromets').  Bombastic?  Or merely long and long-winded? :D

And speaking of bombastic Russian composers whose names begin with Гл -- how about Glazunov? ;D

The new erato

Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on April 21, 2015, 10:23:19 AM
No one seems to have mentioned an obvious contender


ETA
That is Karl Heinz down front.
Rummenige?

kishnevi

Listened to William Schuman's Third Symphony as played by Lenny and the NYPO this afternoon.  Based on that performance Schuman qualifies for this thread.

EigenUser

Penderecki is another one I thought of.

Also, Ravel's Gaspard de la Nuit. Scarbo, in particular. Yet, for all of its over-the-top moments, it has one of the weirdest endings (quiet, creepy, unresolved).

Messiaen's Visions de l'Amen (which I absolutely love).
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".

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Quote from: EigenUser on April 22, 2015, 12:20:13 AM
Penderecki is another one I thought of.

Certainly. Personally, I never understood the attraction to this composer but I'm sure many are wondering the same for my love of Delius' music. ;)

Ken B

Quote from: EigenUser on April 22, 2015, 12:20:13 AM
Penderecki is another one I thought of.

Also, Ravel's Gaspard de la Nuit. Scarbo, in particular. Yet, for all of its over-the-top moments, it has one of the weirdest endings (quiet, creepy, unresolved).

Messiaen's Visions de l'Amen (which I absolutely love).

Penderecki sure can be!
My new tag line might be this:
"Ravel" -- Nate, when asked to name a bombastic composer

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