Greatest unsung composer of the 20th century?

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Greatest unsung composer of the 20th century?

Rued Langgaard
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Rued Langgaard
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Rued Langgaard
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Cato

#20
April 28, 2015, 06:30:07 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on April 28, 2015, 06:15:27 AM
"Collateral music."

"Ya shoulda seen it, Sarge: the sixteenth notes!   :'(   :'(  They were, they were...everywhere!   :o :o :o :o  The horror!  The horror!"
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Sergeant Rock

#21
April 28, 2015, 06:36:52 AM
Quote from: Cato on April 28, 2015, 06:30:07 AM
"Ya shoulda seen it, Sarge: the sixteenth notes!   :'(   :'(  They were, they were...everywhere!   :o :o :o :o  The horror!  The horror!"

Quote from: karlhenning on April 28, 2015, 06:15:27 AM
"Collateral music."

George Antheil, Concerto for Bazooka, Percussion and Timid Strings.

SArge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

mszczuj

#22
April 28, 2015, 07:03:30 AM
I have heard only symphonies of Langgaard and find them rather disappointing and dull, but there was one exception which was absolutely fantastic and refreshing, it was of course Ixion.

I would vote for Vermeulen.

San Antone

#23
April 28, 2015, 07:09:14 AM
Too many to name.

(poco) Sforzando

#24
April 28, 2015, 07:43:08 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on April 28, 2015, 04:38:58 AM
Okay, I'll ask:  how exactly do they succeed at that dubious endeavor?

By writing for six solo tubas.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

Karl Henning

#25
April 28, 2015, 07:58:02 AM
Damn!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

vandermolen

#26
April 28, 2015, 08:14:44 AM
No objection to Langgaard as I love symphonies 4-6.

But I'd probably go for Stanley Bate or Braga Santos.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

EigenUser

#27
April 28, 2015, 10:40:35 AM
No idea who the greatest is, but I personally love Maurice Ohana.
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".

Mirror Image

#28
April 28, 2015, 10:41:31 AM
My vote goes to Charles Koechlin. There I said it! ;D I LOVE this guy's music, although I wouldn't make the claim that he was 'the greatest,' but he's certainly my favorite unsung.

Karl Henning

#29
April 28, 2015, 10:45:26 AM
Quote from: Mirror Image on April 28, 2015, 10:41:31 AM
My vote goes to Charles Koechlin. There I said it! ;D

:)
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

vandermolen

#30
April 28, 2015, 12:16:06 PM
Quote from: Mirror Image on April 28, 2015, 10:41:31 AM
My vote goes to Charles Koechlin. There I said it! ;D I LOVE this guy's music, although I wouldn't make the claim that he was 'the greatest,' but he's certainly my favorite unsung.

I like his music too.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Cato

#31
April 28, 2015, 12:35:56 PM
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on April 28, 2015, 06:36:52 AM
George Antheil, Concerto for Bazooka, Percussion and Timid Strings.

Sarge

Yes, this one is a Totentanz with casualties!   8)
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Cato

#32
April 28, 2015, 12:39:05 PM
Quote from: mszczuj on April 28, 2015, 07:03:30 AM
I have heard only symphonies of Langgaard and find them rather disappointing and dull, but there was one exception which was absolutely fantastic and refreshing, it was of course Ixion.

I would vote for Vermeulen.

Also a favorite!

https://www.youtube.com/v/1lzmLzCAYuk
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Ken B

#33
April 28, 2015, 01:48:59 PM
Depends on what the meaning of un is. Several listed here have extensive discographies after all. Anyone mention in The Rest is Noise really can hardly qualify.
I wouldn't say he's a favourite but Lorenzo Perosi scores pretty well in the quality to obscurity ratio. But I will toss out my choice: Graeme Koehne.

Sergeant Rock

#34
April 28, 2015, 02:02:39 PM
Quote from: Ken B on April 28, 2015, 01:48:59 PM
Anyone mention in The Rest is Noise really can hardly qualify.

K.A. Hartmann is out then. Rued and Havergal are still in the running for the Great Unsung  8)

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Ken B

#35
April 28, 2015, 02:23:18 PM
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on April 28, 2015, 02:02:39 PM
K.A. Hartmann is out then. Rued and Havergal are still in the running for the Great Unsung  8)

Sarge

Rued yes. That other guy? 290 results on Amazon. And my HS English teacher had the Gothic on vinyl! So sung too much to be unsung. Perhaps he's the great unsingable composer ...  >:D

Of course I am wildly inconsistent on this! Ask me who is the great unsung hero of the twentieth century and I will answer before you can blink: George C. Marshall.
8)


Sergeant Rock

#36
April 28, 2015, 03:07:48 PM
Quote from: Ken B on April 28, 2015, 02:23:18 PM
Rued yes. That other guy? 290 results on Amazon. And my HS English teacher had the Gothic on vinyl!

Your teacher, one of the few, the proud, the geeks ;D

That 290 consists of much duplication and every 99 cent mp3 file. In fact Brian is still waiting for a complete cycle of symphonies (Rued has two already: Dausgaard and Stupel). Naxos has been at it for over two decades and has managed to record only half the symphonies so far. At this rate I'll be dead before the cycle is completed...if it ever is. Concerts featuring his music are almost nonexistent. To the majority of concert goers the name Havergal is as unknown as Rued. If he's known at all, it's because his fans are rather loud  ;D...not that it gets us much, at least not until very recently.

Sarge



the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Ken B

#37
April 28, 2015, 04:59:08 PM
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on April 28, 2015, 03:07:48 PM
Your teacher, one of the few, the proud, the geeks ;D

That 290 consists of much duplication and every 99 cent mp3 file. In fact Brian is still waiting for a complete cycle of symphonies (Rued has two already: Dausgaard and Stupel). Naxos has been at it for over two decades and has managed to record only half the symphonies so far. At this rate I'll be dead before the cycle is completed...if it ever is. Concerts featuring his music are almost nonexistent. To the majority of concert goers the name Havergal is as unknown as Rued. If he's known at all, it's because his fans are rather loud  ;D...not that it gets us much, at least not until very recently.

Sarge

Yes, I have re-thought. Unsung does not mean obscure or unknown. So HB could logically be unsung.
His violin concerto suggests instead that he cannot be obscure enough, and is oversung but ....  >:D

I actually have a couple CDs on the shelf that need a relistening ...

Which of his symphonies sounds least like Ives?  >:D >:D

(poco) Sforzando

#38
April 28, 2015, 05:31:10 PM
Quote from: Rinaldo on April 28, 2015, 03:38:20 AM
Discuss.

Is this some kind of joke? This is even worse than Braga-Santos.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."
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