Great underrated pieces.

[Schu]

I agree with the whole chamber music thing. People just seem to associate classical music with choirs or orchestras, which are great and all, but so's chamber. Also I agree with the whole Janacek thing. Aside from my beloved Schubert, he's tops.

Specifically, I'd say Schubert's Arpeggione Sonata (played by 'cello these days) and Janacek's Pohadka (also played by cello, but not just these days...).

Another few: the L'Arlesienne suites by Bizet, Schuberts orchestral works, Schuberts der Hirt auf dem Felden (I... think I got the title right) for soprano, clarinet and piano, and I'm about done.

I also think that although they are generally exalted and all, Tchaikovsky's 6th symphony and Janacek's 2nd string quartet still don't get the recognition they deserve 

[Schu]

Oh, and Colin Mawby's Ave Verum Corpus. That should be world-famous for sure based on quality. And us (2nd) basses get to do low D's!

[bwv 1080]

Stefan Wolpe - Piece for Trumpet and Seven Instruments

[Larry Rinkel]

You're certainly answering Larry's post.
I love Sinfonia domestica.

Nah. If SD is stronger than AS, that just proves that AS is even worse. 

[Bonehelm]

In case anyone haven't noticed, my previous post wasn't serious, despite the last sentence.  But seriously though, I reg

[Sean]

Larry

I won't. An incoherent mess. Last time I heard it, I thought it deserved every bit of the inattention it has traditionally been given.

It's not at all as bad as that, and certainly Karajan finds both much sense and much vigour, not to mention virtuosity and precision, that others (eg Jarvi) don't. It's an amazingly exultant four movement quasi-symphony which though not quite carrying the day as the earlier poems do remains one of his greatest works, as indeed K says. Indulge in it...

[Larry Rinkel]

Larry

It's not at all as bad as that

Oh, yes it is. 

LarryIndulge in it...

Thanks, but only if you treat.

[loudav]

Muzio Clementi's Gradus ad Parnassum--an endlessly fascinating collection of 100 piano pieces, written between (roughly) 1817 and 1826, in a style that blends baroque counterpoint and richly complex classical harmonies. IMO, the greatest single piece of 19th century piano music. The fact that it hasn't been mentioned by anyone in this erudite forum confirms my conviction that it is woefully underrated.

[Ten thumbs]

Muzio Clementi's Gradus ad Parnassum--an endlessly fascinating collection of 100 piano pieces, written between (roughly) 1817 and 1826, in a style that blends baroque counterpoint and richly complex classical harmonies. IMO, the greatest single piece of 19th century piano music. The fact that it hasn't been mentioned by anyone in this erudite forum confirms my conviction that it is woefully underrated.

Do you know if this is in print? Schirmer had an incomplete edition, which I suppose I ought to have acquired but yes, I have continued to neglect this work.

[Bonehelm]

Bruckner's motets and masses are pretty overshadowed by the composer's own symphonies...I strongly recommend the Mass no.3 with Celly/MPO on EMI.

[JoshLilly]

I normally don't post to these threads, as I don't think it really goes anywhere. But I realised I possibly have something I'd put forward: Joachim Raff's Symphony #9 in E minor, Op.208, Im Sommer.

[Kullervo]

I normally don't post to these threads, as I don't think it really goes anywhere. But I realised I possibly have something I'd put forward: Joachim Raff's Symphony #9 in E minor, Op.208, Im Sommer.

How is this disc?

[LaciDeeLeBlanc]

I normally don't post to these threads, as I don't think it really goes anywhere. But I realised I possibly have something I'd put forward: Joachim Raff's Symphony #9 in E minor, Op.208, Im Sommer.

I created this thread not really to open a can of worms.  I simply wanted to find some music to look  into that isn't as commonly talked about.

[BachQ]

I created this thread not really to open a can of worms. 

Welcome to GMG .......... 

[JoshLilly]

Corey,

Of the recordings of Raff's symphonies 8 - 11, I think those performances are the worst. And not by a small margin, but just really, really bad. In general, I prefer the Tudor label performances of Raff symphonies, with the possible sole exception of the 9th. At least in the first movement, I think the Marco Polo performance is best. Luckily, with the magic of computers, I can rip the 1st movement of the 9th from my Marco Polo disc, and the other 3 movements from the Tudor disc, and "build" my own, favourite performance.

Anyway, for the cpo CDs, I think all the Raff symphonies they've done are bad, and especially the 9th and 8th. That's just my opinion. I'm definitely not alone in it, but I have seen some people praise them; however, as far as I know, all the people I've seen praise it have heard only those versions of the symphonies and no other, so they have no comparison.

[Kullervo]

Corey,

Of the recordings of Raff's symphonies 8 - 11, I think those performances are the worst. And not by a small margin, but just really, really bad. In general, I prefer the Tudor label performances of Raff symphonies, with the possible sole exception of the 9th. At least in the first movement, I think the Marco Polo performance is best. Luckily, with the magic of computers, I can rip the 1st movement of the 9th from my Marco Polo disc, and the other 3 movements from the Tudor disc, and "build" my own, favourite performance.

Anyway, for the cpo CDs, I think all the Raff symphonies they've done are bad, and especially the 9th and 8th. That's just my opinion. I'm definitely not alone in it, but I have seen some people praise them; however, as far as I know, all the people I've seen praise it have heard only those versions of the symphonies and no other, so they have no comparison.

Thanks, I'll avoid it.

[beclemund]

I created this thread not really to open a can of worms.  I simply wanted to find some music to look  into that isn't as commonly talked about.

I think it is serving your intended purpose well... I have added about a dozen works to my Amazon wish list and plan on purchasing them after I explore them a little more and see what the library has to offer.

[Scriptavolant]

Corey,

I prefer the Tudor label performances of Raff symphonies, with the possible sole exception of the 9th. At least in the first movement, I think the Marco Polo performance is best.

I've got the Naxos CD with Symphonies Nos 3 and 10. I'm not fully at ease with sound quality. I had the entire set from Symphony 6 to 10, which I was liking indeed, but I had to throw it into the bin because it was messed up in the audio. So I'm doomed not to have these symphonies in normal conditions.
I was interested in the Tudor recordings as well, nice covers too, but price is definetely too high for me to pay. (19€ one CD).
The question is: when is Naxos going to re-print the Marco Polo Raff's Serie?

[loudav]

Do you know if this is in print? Schirmer had an incomplete edition, which I suppose I ought to have acquired but yes, I have continued to neglect this work.

My two copies are LP sets, but there's this set on CD, which I haven't heard:

http://cgi.ebay.com/CLEMENTI-GRADUS-AD-PARNASSUM-CD-Boxset-NEW_W0QQitemZ110153071730QQcmdZViewItem

http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/6754167/a/Clementi:+Gradus+ad+Parnassum.htm

http://music.barnesandnoble.com/search/product.asp?r=1&ean=600554768724

[Gabriel]

My two copies are LP sets, but there's this set on CD, which I haven't heard:

http://cgi.ebay.com/CLEMENTI-GRADUS-AD-PARNASSUM-CD-Boxset-NEW_W0QQitemZ110153071730QQcmdZViewItem

http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/6754167/a/Clementi:+Gradus+ad+Parnassum.htm

http://music.barnesandnoble.com/search/product.asp?r=1&ean=600554768724

There's also a complete recording by Danielle Laval, in Accord.