Top 5 Favorite Ravel Works

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springrite

Quote from: Daverz on June 01, 2015, 06:21:14 PM

Duo for Violin and Cello

Glad someone mentioned this wonderful work!
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

Mirror Image

Quote from: Daverz on June 01, 2015, 06:21:14 PM
Piano Trio.  I can think of few works as beautiful and as perfect.
Ma Mere L'Oye ballet
Daphnis et Chloe
Piano Music (cheating, but the solo piano music fits on 2 discs).  Favorites are Gaspard, Sonatine, Valses, and Tombeau.
Scheherazade
String Quartet
Duo for Violin and Cello

You're cheating in this list and in your Janacek list. You picked 7 works and you can only choose 5.

springrite

Quote from: Mirror Image on June 01, 2015, 06:25:30 PM
You're cheating in this list and in your Janacek list. You picked 7 works and you can only choose 5.

Can't fault the consistency though.
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

Mirror Image


Daverz

Quote from: Mirror Image on June 01, 2015, 06:25:30 PM
You're cheating in this list and in your Janacek list. You picked 7 works and you can only choose 5.

Yup.  I'm such a bastard!  And actually I listed 10 works by name.  Bwahahahaha!

Mirror Image

Quote from: Daverz on June 01, 2015, 07:11:55 PM
Yup.  I'm such a bastard!  And actually I listed 10 works by name.  Bwahahahaha!

>:(

Ken B

Quote from: Daverz on June 01, 2015, 07:11:55 PM
Yup.  I'm such a bastard!  And actually I listed 10 works by name.  Bwahahahaha!

And I bet you change the list daily too!

Madiel

Piano Concerto for the Left Hand
Miroirs
Gaspard de la Nuit


I'm not 100% certain what would occupy the other places. Some of the chamber works, I don't feel I'm familiar enough with yet to know how I'd rank them (and I don't know the Introduction and Allegro at all, which many people rank very highly indeed).

But hey, one of my favourite concertos and 2 of the greatest piano suites ever written isn't a bad start. And it's not as if there aren't plenty of fine works close on the heels of these ones.
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San Antone

Quote from: springrite on June 01, 2015, 06:24:27 PM
Glad someone mentioned this wonderful work!

I had done so, too.

Quote from: sanantonio on June 01, 2015, 09:48:55 AM
Ma mère l'oye (either for solo piano or orchestrated)
Trois poemes de Stephane Mallarme
Piano trio in A Minor
Piano Concerto in G
Sonata for Violin and Cello

???

Mr Bloom


Luke

Me too. And I said it first. *sniff*

;) ;)

Christo

Quote from: EigenUser on June 01, 2015, 03:26:00 PMIntroduction and Allegro for Flute, Clarinet, Harp, and String Quartet (surprised that no one picked this yet!)

Actually, this no-one did:  ;)
Quote from: Christo on June 01, 2015, 08:36:16 AM Introduction and Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet, and string quartet (1905)
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

vandermolen

#52
Piano Concerto for the Left Hand
Daphnis and Chloe
Introduction and Allegro or Gaspard de la Nuit.
Ma Mere L'Oye (orch)
Bolero  8)
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Christo

#53
Quote from: vandermolen on June 02, 2015, 11:13:57 AMBolero  8)

Fabulous piece, no reason for snobbishness. You're not the only one to like it:

Quote from: jochanaan on June 01, 2015, 09:00:26 AMAnd finally, "Seventeen minutes of orchestra without any music." ;)

Quote from: Christo on June 01, 2015, 09:06:46 AMLike that one too.  :)

Quote from: karlhenning on June 01, 2015, 09:08:25 AM+1

EDIT:
Quote from: Ken B on June 03, 2015, 05:42:30 PMHey! I picked Bolero too! *grumbles*

Fixed:
Quote from: Ken B on June 01, 2015, 03:03:11 PMBolero
:)

Edit - even one more:
Quote from: TheGSMoeller on June 03, 2015, 05:32:31 PMCount me in... I've always liked it, ever since first time I heard it, over twenty years ago now I'm guessing.
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

(poco) Sforzando

L'Enfant et les Sortilèges
Concerto in G
Gaspard de la Nuit
Scheherazade
Bolero

"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

TheGSMoeller

Quote from: Christo on June 02, 2015, 11:25:47 AM
Fabulous piece, no reason for snobbishness. You're not the only one to like it:

Count me in...

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on June 01, 2015, 04:13:21 PM
Bolero

I've always liked it, ever since first time I heard it, over twenty years ago now I'm guessing.

Ken B

Hey! I picked Bolero too!
*grumbles*

TheGSMoeller

Has Bolero become The Spice Girls of classical music? It's cool to not like it, but somehow it sells millions of records and sells out concert halls.

(poco) Sforzando

#58
Bolero has been criticized for monotony, and Ravel himself thought it exhibited "no form, properly speaking, no development, no or almost no modulation." But though the last of these are true, the work in fact demonstrates a perfect understanding of a classical double-variation form, in this case in which the variations are confined primarily to changes in orchestral timbre, but they preserve the momentum found in the classical variation form where the phrase structure of the theme (in this case two themes) remains constant. Typically a classical variation structure will conclude with some departure from the momentum of maintaining this constant phrase structure (such as a concluding fugue), and here Ravel breaks the momentum by the sudden modulation from C major to E. The piece also succeeds because, against the monotony of the snare-drum figure, both the main and secondary themes exhibit considerable melodic and rhythmic asymmetry, and very little internal repetition. See for instance how the placement of the G in measures 3 and 4 offsets the stability of the basic 3/4 rhythm:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bol%C3%A9ro_(Ravel)

(Ravel's approach in Bolero is very different from that of Britten in the YPG, where the variations do not preserve the phrase structure of the main theme, but instead each develops various motifs from the theme in what amounts to a set of free fantasias on it. At the same time, as a gesture to the classical method, Britten concludes his piece with a nifty little fugue.)
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

Madiel

Yep, all of that. Saying that Bolero is monotonous misses the fact that the "monotony" actually consists of a couple of first-class melodies that have enormous interest in and of themselves.
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