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Quote from: Spotted Horses on May 21, 2023, 07:39:58 AMBut the other nuisance is that Apple Music wants to send output to whatever I have selected as the operating system's sound output (built in speakers, external DAC, etc). It doesn't seem to allow me to direct its output somewhere else, so the little operating sounds (beeps and clicks for opening folders, etc) go along with the music. That is not ideal.
Quote from: Spotted Horses on May 21, 2023, 07:39:58 AMThanks for the comments. Now that it was mentioned, I see that I can get booklets from Qobuz based on having an account that I use for their download store. Useful for future reference, but not in the current instance because the recording I am currently streaming, Kupiec's collection of Bacewicz Piano Music on Hanssler, does not have a booklet on qobuz (or anywhere else, that I can see). Not unexpected since it is an older release.That motivation for getting qobuz on top of Apple Music is gone. But the other nuisance is that Apple Music wants to send output to whatever I have selected as the operating system's sound output (built in speakers, external DAC, etc). It doesn't seem to allow me to direct its output somewhere else, so the little operating sounds (beeps and clicks for opening folders, etc) go along with the music. That is not ideal.
Quote from: Wanderer on May 21, 2023, 07:53:24 AMRegarding Chandos releases, their booklets are freely available in their website.
Quote from: Daverz on May 21, 2023, 02:10:14 PMThey were. Maybe it's just me. I seeHiRes Artwork available on purchasePDF Booklet is available on purchasewhen I click on the Media tab.
Quote from: DavidW on May 21, 2023, 07:54:14 AMQobuz is sadly the only app that I know of that supports wasapi exclusive to stop system notifications from interfering with the music. On Windows 10 if you open App volume and sound preferences you can set the system volume to zero however while keeping the app volumes at 100.
Quote from: Madiel on May 21, 2023, 01:54:32 PMHaving the operating sounds as well is bad design. Most apps on my phone know not to do that. But maybe if you're using a desktop computer it's less common to separate these out, or even more difficult for the programmers.
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on May 22, 2023, 10:49:37 AMThere is an interesting article on the blog "On An Overgrown Path" which folks here might be interested in: "Classical critics need to talk sound sense" about how companies are remastering classical recordings. https://www.overgrownpath.com/2023/05/classical-critics-need-to-talk-sound.htmlWasn't quite certain where to put this article, but he did also refer to Apple.PDp.s. Trying to remember who all writes this blog? He doesn't make it easy to find his name.
Quote from: Spotted Horses on May 22, 2023, 10:56:31 AMOne thing that is not mentioned is that Apple Spatial Audio can be turned off. You are not compelled to listen to reprocessed sound if you use Apple Music Streaming. (I've never tried turning it on.)I also think it's fair to say that there have always been producers who aim produce something superior to the concert hall experience. Tools to attempt this are getting more sophisticated.
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on May 22, 2023, 11:02:59 AMI didn't know that about Apple Spatial Audio. Good to know. I should have added that there is also a kindred article there about Art & Son Studio and (also I think in general) their remastering and does it create an unreal experience for listeners and how that might also impact their expectations re real-life concert performances, etc. It's here: https://www.overgrownpath.com/2023/04/sibelius-remastered-or-reimagined.htmlSomething to think about.PD
Quote from: Spotted Horses on May 22, 2023, 12:31:32 PMI'm probably outing myself as a nay-sayer, but this strikes me as similar "prophet of doom" style of commentary. The whole thing about remastering being fundamental different from mastering because in remastering they are trying to distort the content strikes me as an artificial distinction. They can distort the content as much as they want in the "mastering" and often remastering involves finding a better source (an original tape for instance) to get closer to the original signal.I haven't sought out any of the Art and Sons mastered recordings, but I do have the big Cluytens box which they did and I didn't notice any of the anomalies that are described. I did compare one track to an older master that I already had and my only conclusion was that the hype about it being improved was overblown, they sounded identical to me.
Quote from: Spotted Horses on May 20, 2023, 08:26:57 AMI can feel myself getting sucked into the streaming universe based on noticing what is available on Apple Music (and all seems to be available in lossless format).But I miss the "booklet." I like to see the recording data (i.e., date and location of recording). And the program notes are of interest, particularly in music that is new to me. That seems to be basically nonexistent in streaming world. Do people miss this, or do some streaming services provide the "booklet?"
Quote from: Spotted Horses on May 22, 2023, 12:31:32 PMI'm probably outing myself as a nay-sayer, but this strikes me as similar "prophet of doom" style of commentary.
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on May 22, 2023, 10:49:37 AMThere is an interesting article on the blog "On An Overgrown Path"
Quote from: Daverz on May 22, 2023, 04:46:53 PMThe author has a very dry sense of humor: "What Norman Lebrecht heard [...] If I was not so completely convinced of his impartiality [...]".
Quote from: San Antone on May 22, 2023, 05:48:26 PMToday I cancelled my Premium Spotify account. I have grown tired of the "upgrades" when each one seems to degrade functionality. And it has become very slow. For the last few days I've been using Apple Music and am very happy with it. First of all, the sound quality is an improvement over Spotify, and the content seems to be as rich. It is also much better than Amazon Prime Music Unlimited, which for some reason does not display an artists' albums in reverse chronological order. So I may cancel that as well.
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on May 23, 2023, 12:32:46 AM Glad that you found a service that you like! PD
Quote from: San Antone on May 23, 2023, 04:49:36 AMI most likely will not cancel Amazon Music Unlimited. Last night it was the only service which had the album Van Morrison, You Win Again.
Quote from: Spotted Horses on June 01, 2023, 11:29:57 AMI was resistant, but I've been sucked into streaming by Apple Music Lossless. It is going to reduce CD purchases almost to zero, if not zero. For instance, it occurs to me that I should hear Barenboim's Bruckner cycle with the Staatskapelle Berlin. Ordinarily the attractively priced box set would already be on it's way to me. But I have multiple Bruckner cycles already, it is unlikely I will be coming back to this new set over and over, probably good for one listen. No reason not to stream, except that the streamers don't have the booklet.On the other hand, I've been planning to get Jablonsky's release of Bacewicz piano music, and I will probably go ahead and get it (lossless download). It is important repertoire that is not in my collection and I would be reluctant to be in a position to loose access to it if I lost access to streaming. After all, the current business model may change and streaming services with comprehensive catalogs may morph into something like video streaming, slim pickings. On the other hand, I have Bacewicz' string quartets in a release by the Silelian Quartet. I'm curious about the recordings by the Lutoslawski quartet on Naxos, but I would be content to stream those (unless they turn out to be dramatically superior.) Another aspect, I'm grateful that I've been able to ascertain that C.P.E. Bach piano music bores me to tears without investing in a box set. (At some level it is galling that after I've spend decades amassing a large collection of classical music, someone can pay $15 per month and effectively have a bigger collection than I do. I guess that is the psychology behind streaming resistance.)
Quote from: Spotted Horses on June 01, 2023, 11:29:57 AMIt is going to reduce CD purchases almost to zero, if not zero.
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