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Bogey

They should have left these alone:

The Day the Earth Stood Still
Planet of the Apes
Godzilla (any of the remakes)
Psycho
There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Bogey on July 15, 2015, 11:54:19 AM
They should have left these alone:

The Day the Earth Stood Still
Planet of the Apes
Godzilla (any of the remakes)
Psycho

Agree...except for Psycho IV: The Beginning. The reason: Olivia Hussey  8)

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Ken B

Quote from: Bogey on July 15, 2015, 11:54:19 AM
They should have left these alone:

The Day the Earth Stood Still
Planet of the Apes
Godzilla (any of the remakes)
Psycho

Bad remakes are common. Great ones are rare. My nomination for best remake: The Maltese Falcon

I much prefered the second True Grit, and the second Ocean's Eleven ( sorry, Bill).

Bogey

Quote from: Ken B on July 15, 2015, 12:32:40 PM
Bad remakes are common. Great ones are rare. My nomination for best remake: The Maltese Falcon

I much prefered the second True Grit, and the second Ocean's Eleven ( sorry, Bill).

No worries.

Best remake for me is probably TheThomas Crown Affair
There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

Rinaldo

Quote from: Bogey on July 15, 2015, 11:54:19 AM
They should have left these alone:

Planet of the Apes

The new ones (Dawn and Rise) are actually very solid efforts, close to reaching a truly great status.

Best remakes: The Thing and Scarface.
"The truly novel things will be invented by the young ones, not by me. But this doesn't worry me at all."
~ Grażyna Bacewicz

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on July 15, 2015, 12:10:15 PM
Agree...except for Psycho IV: The Beginning. The reason: Olivia Hussey  8)

Sarge

Actually, Psycho IV is a sequel, or prequel, not a remake. So it doesn't count. Sorry.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Bogey

Quote from: Rinaldo on July 15, 2015, 12:44:54 PM
The new ones (Dawn and Rise) are actually very solid efforts, close to reaching a truly great status.

Best remakes: The Thing and Scarface.

Oh, man! ;D  I love all of those in their original forms more so.  (However, to be fair, I need to give the new Ape run another look.) 

Actually, Ken is right about the Maltese, but I refuse to accept the existence of the previous. ;D
There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

Karl Henning

Quote from: Bogey on July 15, 2015, 12:57:33 PM
Actually, Ken is right about the Maltese

He is, though one could argue that you need to be a fetishist to know that it was not the original   0:)   8) :)
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Rinaldo

"The truly novel things will be invented by the young ones, not by me. But this doesn't worry me at all."
~ Grażyna Bacewicz

Cato

Quote from: Rinaldo on July 15, 2015, 01:24:38 PM
Unrelated but I had to share this:

It's a Mad Mad Mad Max Fury Road ;D

More nostalgia: I saw It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World (in Cinerama) several times: Dick Shawn, Jonathan Winters, great car chases with late '50's early '60's vehicles, and who can resist watching Terry-Thomas and Milton Berle hold Ethel  Merman upside down to shake loose something from her...balloons?  :o

Terry-Thomas Rule: anything with him must be halfway decent!   8)
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Ken B

Quote from: Bogey on July 15, 2015, 12:38:55 PM
No worries.

Best remake for me is probably TheThomas Crown Affair

Yes, that's much better in the remake too. You want to remake interesting but failed movies.

Cato

Quote from: Bogey on July 15, 2015, 11:54:19 AM
They should have left these alone:

The Day the Earth Stood Still
Planet of the Apes
Godzilla (any of the remakes)
Psycho

Amen to those!

Quote from: Ken B on July 15, 2015, 12:32:40 PM
Bad remakes are common. Great ones are rare. My nomination for best remake: The Maltese Falcon

I much preferred ... the second Ocean's Eleven ( sorry, Bill).

Amen to those also!

Quote from: Ken B on July 15, 2015, 02:05:52 PM

The Thomas Crowne Affair

Yes, that's much better in the remake too. You want to remake interesting but failed movies.

Thanks for the recommendation.
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

James

Quote from: Bogey on July 15, 2015, 11:54:19 AMGodzilla (any of the remakes)

The one from last year was pretty good, these kind of movies really need the visuals to pay off .. it is vastly superior to the now silly looking original ..

In fact, a lot of old horror and sci-fi pictures are prime ground for remakes given the advances within the medium of visual storytelling (movies) ..but as with ANYTHING it all depends on who's involved.
Action is the only truth

mc ukrneal

Quote from: Rinaldo on July 15, 2015, 12:44:54 PM
The new ones (Dawn and Rise) are actually very solid efforts, close to reaching a truly great status.

Best remakes: The Thing and Scarface.
I think I'd go with the Fly.
Be kind to your fellow posters!!

James

Action is the only truth

Karl Henning

Quote from: Rinaldo on July 15, 2015, 12:44:54 PM
Best remakes: The Thing and Scarface.

I've seen the remakes, and applaud them both, though they are not close to my cinematic heart.  I suppose I am too casual a cinephile to seek out the originals.

Two re-makes which I like just as well as the originals (I think too well of the originals to say better) are The In Laws — updated with heart, different-but-not-inimical tone, the family members become a more interesting part of the ensemble — and The Manchurian Candidate.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Bogey

How about the attempt for the Avengers' television show to the big screen.  That was dreadful IMO.
There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

Karl Henning

#97
Quote from: Bogey on July 16, 2015, 03:54:00 AM
How about the attempt for the Avengers' television show to the big screen.  That was dreadful IMO.

I've not seen it, nor have any plans to . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Cato

Quote from: Bogey on July 16, 2015, 03:54:00 AM
How about the attempt for the Avengers' television show to the big screen.  That was dreadful IMO.

Quote from: karlhenning on July 16, 2015, 04:01:59 AM
I've not seen it, not have any plans to . . . .

Not even a 4 out of 10 on IMDB:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118661/

From one of the reviews there:

Quote..."The Avengers" is one of the flattest movies to come down the pike in a long time...


As for the writing, well.... I think (despite the credits) they actually gave the job to a couple of public school lads who rather thought that they were being clever.

Following the rule that making a movie from a TV show is a dangerous undertaking.

Vice-versa: Limitless is being turned into a series for CBS.  The premise has been turned into something really different (ha-ha): an FBI-adviser crime show.   ::)
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Karl Henning

Quote from: Cato on July 16, 2015, 04:16:37 AM
Quote
As for the writing, well.... I think (despite the credits) they actually gave the job to a couple of public school lads who rather thought that they were being clever.

Tangentially, the closing credits of Live Free or Die Hard list a team of 10 (count 'em!) orchestrators.  (Masha commented to the effect of, What is there, five minutes of music?)  Okay, I get that Composition for a Hollywood movie is Something a Bit Other, and I hear the insistence of others, that it needs to be taken on its own terms.

But it still gives me a belly-laugh, to find that 10 people were needed to do what any one reasonably talented musician is capable of.  Maybe it's just "cultural welfare," I dunno . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot