James Horner Dies in Crash

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relm1

His death is a huge loss. He was one of two of the great melodists left.  Now, it's really just John Williams and he's an old man. Truly a shame that Horner died while he was experiencing a bit of a renaissance under such an awful accident.

Bogey

Quote from: relm1 on July 08, 2015, 01:17:04 AM
His death is a huge loss. He was one of two of the great melodists left.  Now, it's really just John Williams and he's an old man. Truly a shame that Horner died while he was experiencing a bit of a renaissance under such an awful accident.

Excellent post and point.
There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

Karl Henning

Quote from: relm1 on July 08, 2015, 01:17:04 AM
His death is a huge loss. He was one of two of the great melodists left.

As someone with at least a degree of melodic talent, I resent this remark.

And its implication:  Oh, dear!  Melody is forever dying out of the world!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

relm1

Quote from: karlhenning on July 08, 2015, 04:08:23 AM
As someone with at least a degree of melodic talent, I resent this remark.

And its implication:  Oh, dear!  Melody is forever dying out of the world!

Well, I'm a melodist too but these guys had a profound melodic talent that encapsulated the dramatic/emotional need of a character or scene so perfectly and immediately. 

Karl Henning

By all means, mourn the loss, and praise his talents.  The musical art did not die even with JS Bach, of course.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

relm1

Quote from: karlhenning on July 08, 2015, 07:00:33 AM
By all means, mourn the loss, and praise his talents.  The musical art did not die even with JS Bach, of course.

...True...but musical art was in good hands with those revolutionaries and talent to come and was not a dying art at that time.  My opinion.

Karl Henning

Opinion noted.  You do understand, though, that telling a composer that "music is a dying art in our time" is a hostile opinion?
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

relm1

Quote from: karlhenning on July 08, 2015, 07:47:55 AM
Opinion noted.  You do understand, though, that telling a composer that "music is a dying art in our time" is a hostile opinion?

Obviously we are hitting each others buttons on this topic but I note your remark is a misstatement of what I said so if you are going to quote me, please do so accurately.  What I said was "melody" is a dying art form especially in film.  Melody and music are not equal.  Horner was one of the great melodists and there are few around who still care about that especially in movies.  It is just not that important to film makers.

Karl Henning

Thanks for the clarification;  sorry if I have misstated.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

relm1

Quote from: karlhenning on July 08, 2015, 08:32:07 AM
Thanks for the clarification;  sorry if I have misstated.

Now I feel like an ass for being overly sensitive so my apologies. 

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Monsieur Croche

#31
'Melody,' so often really thought about more as 'catchytune' than having anything to do with good or great composing, whatever the genre.

Well, Paul McCartney, master melodist, is still with us, and so are Beat Furrer, John Adams, Georg Friedrich Haas, and many many others. Apollo be praised.

But, there is an up side to this loss; the tens of thousands of decent tune-smiths of this world have all "moved up one."
~ I'm all for personal expression; it just has to express something to me. ~