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Re: Bruckner 7th
« Reply #80 on: October 31, 2021, 10:15:53 AM »
Klemperer is one of the few who gets tempo relations in the first movemen right. I also recommend it but I seem to recall that I was less fond of Klemp's mvmt. 3+4.
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« Reply #81 on: October 31, 2021, 12:47:06 PM »
I was listening to a lot of the Klemperer Bruckner recordings when I first discovered Bruckner's music a couple of years ago, but haven't listened much since. Will have to check out his 7th. I also hear his 6th is quite excellent.

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« Reply #82 on: October 31, 2021, 12:50:44 PM »
A propos of VonStupp's comment to me, what are some recordings that emphasize less of the "big, old-school Romanticism" approach in this symphony? It would be nice to hear something contrasting to the Barenboim/Berlin and Karajan/Vienna that I already have.

Any thoughts on the Runnicles/BBC Scottish on Hyperion?

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Re: Bruckner 7th
« Reply #83 on: October 31, 2021, 01:23:49 PM »
Gielen, Rosbaud for a rather "modern" approach, and Klemperer is of course his own man but in a way he also belongs rather there than to "big old-school".
I think Giulini is too lyrical for typical "big romantic", at least in the 7th.
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« Reply #84 on: October 31, 2021, 01:25:30 PM »
Gielen, Rosbaud for a rather "modern" approach, and Klemperer is of course his own man but in a way he also belongs rather there than to "big old-school".
I think Giulini is too lyrical for typical "big romantic", at least in the 7th.

Lyrical sounds excellent for this symphony, sometimes nicknamed the "Lyric". I will have to look into Gielen and Rosbaud, two names I definitely don't associate with Bruckner.

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« Reply #85 on: October 31, 2021, 07:12:20 PM »
A propos of VonStupp's comment to me, what are some recordings that emphasize less of the "big, old-school Romanticism" approach in this symphony? It would be nice to hear something contrasting to the Barenboim/Berlin and Karajan/Vienna that I already have.

Skrowaczewski and the already mentioned Rosbaud.

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« Reply #86 on: November 01, 2021, 12:50:24 AM »
Skrowaczewski is also excellent but not nearly as lean and fleet as Rosbaud or Gielen; his Saarbrücken (Arte Nova/Oehms) Bruckner set might be the best deal for a cplt. set. I have not heard Rosbaud's other Bruckner that was long in South West German Radio's vaults. Gielen's Bruckner is a mixed bag; of the one's I have heard (3-8) I think the 5th and 7th are the best by some margin and certainly worth seeking out.
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Re: Bruckner 7th
« Reply #87 on: November 01, 2021, 11:09:18 AM »
Well, if you're looking for fleet, Ormandy/Philadelphia (RCA) and Ivan Fischer/Budapest Festival take about 56 minutes.  Haitink's first recording is around 60 minutes.  Heinz Rögner is a little over 59 minutes and there was a William Steinberg/Pittsburgh recording that was under 60 minutes.

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Re: Bruckner 7th
« Reply #88 on: November 01, 2021, 12:15:29 PM »
Skrowaczewski is also excellent but not nearly as lean and fleet as Rosbaud or Gielen; his Saarbrücken (Arte Nova/Oehms) Bruckner set might be the best deal for a cplt. set. I have not heard Rosbaud's other Bruckner that was long in South West German Radio's vaults. Gielen's Bruckner is a mixed bag; of the one's I have heard (3-8) I think the 5th and 7th are the best by some margin and certainly worth seeking out.

+1. They were also the first to be recorded, if I’m not mistaken. Fresh, urgent yet unhurried performances of great cumulative power.

Apart from Haitink’s, my own rec for best cycle - esp. considering the price - is the Brilliant with Rögner in charge of nos 3-9 (other conductors for the early symphonies). The 7th is excellent. Bold yet glowing performances.

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« Reply #89 on: November 01, 2021, 12:25:36 PM »
I grew up with this recording:
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Re: Bruckner 7th
« Reply #90 on: November 02, 2021, 03:06:04 AM »
+1. They were also the first to be recorded, if I’m not mistaken. Fresh, urgent yet unhurried performances of great cumulative power.
I  cannot check for the 9th, but I also think 7th (1986) and 5th (1989) were the first. However, Gielen's rather slow recording of the 8th is also from 1990

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Apart from Haitink’s, my own rec for best cycle - esp. considering the price - is the Brilliant with Rögner in charge of nos 3-9 (other conductors for the early symphonies). The 7th is excellent. Bold yet glowing performances.
I have not heard any Bruckner with Rögner (separate discs available on Berlin classics, I think) but he has a following among some German listeners.
Struck by the sounds before the sun,
I knew the night had gone.
The morning breeze like a bugle blew
Against the drums of dawn.
(Bob Dylan)