Vaughan Williams Symphony Showdown: the 3rd vs. the 5th

Started by Mirror Image, December 21, 2015, 03:57:06 PM

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Which symphony do you prefer?

Symphony No. 3, "A Pastoral Symphony"
3 (20%)
Symphony No. 5 in D major
12 (80%)

Total Members Voted: 13

Voting closed: March 30, 2016, 04:57:06 PM

Sergeant Rock

#20
Quote from: ChamberNut on December 23, 2015, 01:25:12 PM
I have the Slatkin and Boult (EMI) performances of the 3rd.

Quote from: vandermolen on December 23, 2015, 01:38:55 PM
Don't know the Slatkin but the RCA Previn along with that of 'A London Symphony' and Symphony 8 are the best I have heard. There are two Boult recordings, Decca and EMI - both very good.

Quote from: Mirror Image on December 23, 2015, 02:03:13 PM
You're welcome, Ray. My current favorite Pastoral is Elder's. The Boult performance you own is great. His cycle on EMI is what I cut my teeth with for these symphonies.

My favorite Pastoral is Haitink's. Gramophone's Building a Library said this about it:

"Clocking in at an eyebrow-raising 39:01' overall, Bernard Haitink's is the most intrepidly spacious Pastoral yet. That it's also one of the most sheerly gripping is a tribute both to the superlative contribution of the LPO as well as the towering humanity of the great Dutch maestro's patient view. EMI's top-notch sound captures every strand in the texture with the utmost realism and does full justice to Haitink's scrupulous control of dynamics (yes, there is a world of difference between pp and ppp, he seems to be reminding us time and again). Haitink taps into a vein of a stoic grandeur in the twilit threnody of the second movement that I find profoundly affecting. The Scherzo is invested with a weighty gravitas, its demeanour by turns intimidatingly sombre and grudgingly jubilant; listen out for the rasp of principal clarinet at the very top of its range as the orchestra is at last granted its full head either side of fig B (046'). The finale, in which Amanda Roocroft's smoky, mezzo-ish timbre casts a remote, yet alluring spell, allies epic breadth to keen concentration (needless to report, Haitink keeps a firm hand on the structural tiller throughout). Above all, it's a reading wholly without artifice, noble, inevitable and strong."


Their top choices: Previn, Handley, Haitink, Boult (Decca). The comparison didn't include Elder.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Brahmsian

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on December 23, 2015, 02:42:00 PM
My favorite Pastoral is Haitink's. Gramophone's Building a Library said this about it:

"Clocking in at an eyebrow-raising 39:01' overall, Bernard Haitink's is the most intrepidly spacious Pastoral yet. That it's also one of the most sheerly gripping is a tribute both to the superlative contribution of the LPO as well as the towering humanity of the great Dutch maestro's patient view. EMI's top-notch sound captures every strand in the texture with the utmost realism and does full justice to Haitink's scrupulous control of dynamics (yes, there is a world of difference between pp and ppp, he seems to be reminding us time and again). Haitink taps into a vein of a stoic grandeur in the twilit threnody of the second movement that I find profoundly affecting. The Scherzo is invested with a weighty gravitas, its demeanour by turns intimidatingly sombre and grudgingly jubilant; listen out for the rasp of principal clarinet at the very top of its range as the orchestra is at last granted its full head either side of fig B (046'). The finale, in which Amanda Roocroft's smoky, mezzo-ish timbre casts a remote, yet alluring spell, allies epic breadth to keen concentration (needless to report, Haitink keeps a firm hand on the structural tiller throughout). Above all, it's a reading wholly without artifice, noble, inevitable and strong."


Their top choices: Previn, Handley, Haitink, Boult (Decca). The comparison didn't include Elder.

Sarge

Thank you, Sarge.  39.01 seems quite pastural:D  ;D

ComposerOfAvantGarde

I really have to listen to both of these again! I think I have only heard the 5th once!

springrite

This is like comparing an apple with ... well... another apple...  :P

So I picked the slightly better apple -- #5.
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

Johnnie Burgess

I would have picked symphony 5 but I also like symphony 3.

ComposerOfAvantGarde

I'm more familiar with these now than I was at when this poll closed, but I prefer no. 3

Andante

Quote from: vandermolen on December 22, 2015, 02:00:26 PM
I'm adopting a Zen approach. No.6 is the greatest.  8)
Asking me to choose is very cruel but I will follow your approach and say 6th or 7th it depends on what mood I am in at the time, sorry about that MI but you know me.  ;)
Andante always true to his word has kicked the Marijuana soaked bot with its addled brain in to touch.