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Offline JLR

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I have perused through the extensive threads on the Rachmaninov Concerto Review project.  Thanks for all that hard work.  I am wanting a single disc (or box) with all the piano concertos.  Or maybe two discs if necessary.  So I am seeking a compromise--best set altogether rather than XXX for Concerto 1, YYY for Concerto 2, ZZZ for concerto 3, etc.

I am new to Rachmaninov and confessedly by the standards of this board under-educated musically.  This is what I have: 



I bought it on a lark in a used bookstore.  I enjoy it, but I am guessing there is something better out there.

Here are some recordings I am looking at (based in part on the Review Project). 






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This last is obviously only 2 and 3, but if I am advised that this is a must have, I would be interested in this plus another recording that has the other two.

I really appreciate the advice.  This is the most knowledgeable music forum (or really forum on any subject matter) that I have ever stumbled across.

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I bought it on a lark in a used bookstore.  I enjoy it, but I am guessing there is something better out there.

Well it depends on what you want the performances be like. I don't know the Bronfman/Salonen, but I would be surprised if it wasn't at least good.

The Rudy/Jansons has the advantage of getting the Paganini Rhapsody and Tchaikovsky PC 1 in the same go, of course. Another set of the four concertos to consider is Andsnes, though.

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Our Cato also highly recommended this set:



Karlo (North Star) and I both enjoy this set, too:

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Karlo (North Star) and I both enjoy this set, too:


Yes! I don't know how I managed to forget it. Too much time spent with that delicious Decca Complete Rachmaninov box lately, I suppose...
But anyway, the Collard/Plasson is a a good set, and has a larger range of Rakhmaninov than the others - concertos, solo piano music, and the sonata for piano & cello.
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I'm an 'individual performance' as opposed to a 'box-set' person, myself.

And, as passion and firepower are my standards for Rachmaninov, these are my Best In Shows:

- Zimerman/Ozawa for One

- Ashkenazy/Previn for Two

- Argerich/Chailly for Three

- Ashkenazy/Previn (for the build-up and climax in the first movement- which is tremendous) and the Ashkenazy/Haitink (for the utterly heroic last movement and the great playing of the Concertgebouw)
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Easy first choice for me for a complete set: Kocsis.  He even makes the Third sound enjoyable.  Ashkenazy would be second.  Individual recordings by Janis, Cliburn, Richter, and Zimerman also tickle my fancy.
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Another vote for Argerich/Chailly in no.3. Should you find the coupling with Kondrashin in Tchaikovsky´s 1st Concerto, it´s probably the best modern version of that concerto too, IMO.
 
Ashkenazy/Previn is great in Concerto no.3 as well, but very unusual regarding its extremely broad tempi, most apparent in the big solo cadenza of the 1st movement.

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I'm listening to the Bronfman-Salonen 2 on spotify right now. So far it sounds pretty good to me.

If you do get a set, look for one that contains the Paganini Rhapsody. The 2-CD Ashkenazy set you mentioned does not, but these do:



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I have perused through the extensive threads on the Rachmaninov Concerto Review project.  Thanks for all that hard work.

You're welcome!

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This is one of those rare cases where the best performance (for the set), is also in wonderful sound AND is priced cheaply. I think Brilliant Classics put this set out too. Look no further for a superb set of the Concertos (and an awesome Paganini.)
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Another set of the four concertos to consider is Andsnes, though.



THis is what first came to mind when I read the thread title. Also, do get the Argerich Third that has been mentioned a few times now.

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Nikolai Lugansky.  This is a 2006 recording (fairly recent), with a great an delicate reading of Rachmaninov scores.
For many years I lived with Ashkanasy-Previn recordings, but I dumped it, mostly because of the sound of the orchestra.  Too syrupy and not well defined to my ears.
 
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This is one of those rare cases where the best performance (for the set), is also in wonderful sound AND is priced cheaply. I think Brilliant Classics put this set out too. Look no further for a superb set of the Concertos (and an awesome Paganini.)

Cheers, George! This does look too good not to fetch in . . . .
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Cheers, George! This does look too good not to fetch in . . . .

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Thanks to all for your thoughts
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2016, 05:22:39 AM »
I have decided to go with the Rudy/Jansons.  I appreciate the collective wisdom.

By the way, when I said i expected there was something better out there than the  Bronfman/Salonen, it wasn't because I found something lacking in that recording.  To the contrary, I enjoy that recording greatly--it lead me to want another.  It was simply that the I picked the CD up in a used bookstpore for $5 on a lark.  Under those circumstances, it would odd if I just happened to get one of the best recordings. 

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I'm an 'individual performance' as opposed to a 'box-set' person, myself.

Me too.  And for No.2 I've never felt a need to look past Richter.



And for No.3 I like Janis and that amazing Mercury sound.

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Me too.  And for No.2 I've never felt a need to look past Richter.



And for No.3 I like Janis and that amazing Mercury sound.

I agree with both! Janis and Richter are each great in No. 1 as well. 
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Re: Thanks to all for your thoughts
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2016, 06:10:09 AM »
I have decided to go with the Rudy/Jansons.  I appreciate the collective wisdom.

Let us know how it works out!
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Love this forum, everyone made a different recommendation....  :D

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Love this forum, everyone made a different recommendation....  :D

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And you were expecting . . . ?  0:)
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And you were expecting . . . ?  0:)

It was exactly as I expected. :laugh:

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