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« Reply #40 on: February 11, 2021, 11:17:00 AM »
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Phillipe Manoury, En Echo. It's a song sequence, this is the first. It sounds like he's made a line for the singer which is a bit like Berlioz, well that's not fair but it's got a bit of truth in it, and then he's given her a funky space age  avant garde accompaniment with electronics. How lame is that?
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« Reply #41 on: March 02, 2021, 04:32:00 AM »

And now I see that Catalogue Irraisoné is somehow related to Schwitter's Ursonate -- very good too!


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« Reply #42 on: March 05, 2021, 01:19:28 AM »
I may be pushing the concept of song again, but I think Florian Hecker’s A Script for Machine Synthesis is not totally without interest.


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« Reply #43 on: March 09, 2021, 11:21:06 AM »
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John Croft wrote a pair of songs for soprano and flute called méditions d’une furie. Cora Schmeiser has a most distinctive voice, it has a fragility which I think is attractive. These are worth hearing, they’re a bit special.

And Croft has a song cycle, for soprano and electronics, it’s so sensual it must be bad for you.



Well, if this music is representative of what composers are up to now, postmodernism is dead. Some of this is as decadent and unctuous as Richard Strauss, some of it as magico-spirituo-mystico-whatever as Jonathan Harvey.

https://static.qobuz.com/goodies/52/000139125.pdf

http://john-croft.uk/
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« Reply #44 on: March 23, 2021, 06:31:08 AM »
What am I supposed to do with this?

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« Reply #45 on: March 23, 2021, 04:11:03 PM »
What am I supposed to do with this?

Getting more !

I suggest Matthew Shlomowitz's Letter Piece #5 "Northern Cities" (2009) by Chiara Saccone & Chiara Percivati:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4TQRC18ix0
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« Reply #46 on: March 24, 2021, 06:34:16 PM »
A recent publication :

« Resonant Bodies »
New Focus Recordings (2021)
https://newfocusrecordings.bandcamp.com/album/resonant-bodies

"The Resonant Bodies festival, founded and directed by mezzo-soprano Lucy Dhegrae, ran for three nights of performances in a row at downtown Brooklyn's Roulette Intermedium each year from 2013-19. The broad mission of Resonant Bodies was to highlight adventurous vocalists in programs of their choosing. The collection of live performances from the festival features performances by several prominent vocal performers across the spectrum of diverse practice including Julia Bullock, Tony Arnold, Pamela Z, Charmaine Lee, Lucy Shelton, Caroline Shaw, and Sofia Jernberg."

Very varied works which offer a quite stimulating program in my opinion...  :)


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« Reply #47 on: March 25, 2021, 01:24:41 AM »
A recent publication :

« Resonant Bodies »
New Focus Recordings (2021)
https://newfocusrecordings.bandcamp.com/album/resonant-bodies

"The Resonant Bodies festival, founded and directed by mezzo-soprano Lucy Dhegrae, ran for three nights of performances in a row at downtown Brooklyn's Roulette Intermedium each year from 2013-19. The broad mission of Resonant Bodies was to highlight adventurous vocalists in programs of their choosing. The collection of live performances from the festival features performances by several prominent vocal performers across the spectrum of diverse practice including Julia Bullock, Tony Arnold, Pamela Z, Charmaine Lee, Lucy Shelton, Caroline Shaw, and Sofia Jernberg."

Very varied works which offer a quite stimulating program in my opinion...  :)

Thanks, listening now.
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« Reply #48 on: April 10, 2021, 06:55:30 PM »


These are late pieces principally for up to four voices written for Electric Phoenix. As with the songs in the Song Books, each performer is instructed to be unaware of the others are doing. In this case, they recorded their contribution in a studio and the results were later assembled.  It’s not clear to me how much “artfulness” was involved in that assembly - whether this is the result of an auteur’s decisions.

Each of the six pieces are quite long, and have more or less distinct characters. So far 93 has really caught my imagination - I like the singer’s northern English accent! There is some instrumental sound and I don’t know how it got there. There is, of course, silence - well judged IMO. This is something to explore, potentially impressive I think.
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« Reply #49 on: May 18, 2021, 07:40:58 AM »




Thomas Larcher’s  A Padmore Cycle, for tenor and piano, is just really well made and attractive music. Clearly part of the lieder tradition, and clearly modern. Larcher was going to be composer in residence at The Wigmore Hall, it was a good choice, the audiences there would love this cycle I’m absolutely sure of it - they would feel comfortably at home with the music and stimulated by the challenge of some new sounds, new harmonies. Recommended to people who like Mahler songs, for example, and would like see what composers are doing today with that type of music.

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« Reply #50 on: June 17, 2021, 10:21:28 AM »


Well, we’ve all heard of songs without words, many of these are songs without melodies. They are certainly boundary pushing and I’m not sure how to listen to them. I believe the booklet explains in some length what Christopher Fox was trying to achieve, what tradition he felt part of. If anyone can find said booklet online, please let me know.

The singers from Exaudi are excellent and their commitment to the project is palpable. I can assure you that when you’re in the right frame of mind this is very satisfying music.

https://divineartrecords.com/recording/fox-catalogue-irraisone/

An example

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And yet another antecedent maybe, Aperghis's recitations. I'm listening to this one now



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« Reply #51 on: June 17, 2021, 10:26:26 AM »
And yet another antecedent maybe, Aperghis's recitations. I'm listening to this one now



Not familiar with the Fox, but I mentioned the Aperghis Recitations in "reply #4" of the thread. Rather a good composer IMO, have enjoyed all the Aperghis pieces I've heard.
For instance this (5 vocalists + cello, might as well post here...)
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« Reply #52 on: June 30, 2021, 02:58:26 AM »


Harry Partch, like Guillaume Machaut, is perennially and eternally at the avant of all gardes. His settings of Li Po are early, there’s a recording of the composer performing them, but his voice isn’t top tier and the sound is not so good. I was very pleased to find the above modern performance this morning. I like Stephen Kalm’s rich and refined tenor voice, Ted Mook’s viola is maybe not earthy enough. 

By the way, the original is on this CD



On it I found an amazing, mind blowing, cycle, called Bitter Music.
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