Your Top Five Op. 1 Works

Started by Florestan, May 11, 2016, 04:08:42 AM

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Jo498

We had already a similar thread a year ago or so. It's fairly "easy" with baroque composers because there are plenty of pretty good (and not always very early) collections of trio sonatas or concerti.

So disregarding works on the list linked (or mentioned so far here)

Albinoni: Trio sonatas op.1 (2 violins, b.c.)
Buxtehude: Sonatas op.1 (violin, viola da gamba, b.c.)
Corelli: Sonatas (da chiesa) op.1

and two non-baroque
Haydn: String quartet divertimenti
Walter Rabl: quartet for clarinet, violin, cello, piano
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vandermolen

"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Mirror Image

I can only think of two at the moment:

Britten: Sinfonietta --- one of most incredible first opuses I've heard
Nielsen: Little Suite for Strings --- a delightful work with some infectious melodies and rhythms

vandermolen

Quote from: Mirror Image on May 11, 2016, 05:56:56 PM
I can only think of two at the moment:

Britten: Sinfonietta --- one of most incredible first opuses I've heard
Nielsen: Little Suite for Strings --- a delightful work with some infectious melodies and rhythms
Nice choices John.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).


Mirror Image

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on May 11, 2016, 01:05:39 PMELGAR The Wand of Youth

To get technical for a minute, yes, The Wand of Youth is could be viewed as Op. 1, but it's actually Op. 1a (the first suite) and the second suite is Op. 1b. Elgar's first opus is actually the Romance for violin and piano.

Florestan

Guys, don´t get overtechnical, please! I meant not the first composition ever wrote by X or Y, but their Op. 1 published as such.  :D

Of course Beethoven composed a lot more before his first piano trios (including some later piano sonatas if I´m not mistaken), nevertheless it´s precisely those that he deem´d suitable for making his entrance in the big business.
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PerfectWagnerite

Quote from: North Star on May 11, 2016, 12:38:36 PM
Feel at liberty.
Well I am not as knowledgeable as you guys but I heard Balakirev's Piano Concerto Op.1 on the radio yesterday and thought it was pretty good, especially for someone who wasn't educated the same way as most composers on this list.

EigenUser

Quote from: Mirror Image on May 11, 2016, 05:56:56 PM
I can only think of two at the moment:

Britten: Sinfonietta --- one of most incredible first opuses I've heard
Nielsen: Little Suite for Strings --- a delightful work with some infectious melodies and rhythms
Surprised that you didn't mention Berg's sonata since I know you love Berg.
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".

North Star

Quote from: EigenUser on May 12, 2016, 05:41:42 AM
Surprised that you didn't mention Berg's sonata since I know you love Berg.
John isn't much for solo piano music, though.
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EigenUser

Quote from: North Star on May 12, 2016, 05:45:15 AM
John isn't much for solo piano music, though.
Oh, right  ::). Then I will drop this here:

Full orchestra (arr. by Verbey): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whknueubbn4
String orchestra (arr. by van Klaveren): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMCCWmHrEfw
String sextet (arr. by Müller): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17uPhYnDG38
Guitar duet (arr. by Callison): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkJT6SKOCgk
Guitar solo (arr. by Dejour): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUo-Z_H9qPA
15-piece chamber ensemble (arr. by Sansó): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tggRYvx6SNg
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".

North Star

Quote from: EigenUser on May 12, 2016, 05:46:39 AM
Oh, right  ::). Then I will drop this here:

Full orchestra (arr. by Verbey): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whknueubbn4
String orchestra (arr. by van Klaveren): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMCCWmHrEfw
String sextet (arr. by Müller): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17uPhYnDG38
Guitar duet (arr. by Callison): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkJT6SKOCgk
Guitar solo (arr. by Dejour): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUo-Z_H9qPA
15-piece chamber ensemble (arr. by Sansó): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tggRYvx6SNg
Hah!
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EigenUser

Quote from: North Star on May 12, 2016, 05:49:22 AM
Hah!
I know that people here seem to not like orchestrations done by someone other than the composer, but I think they are all worth hearing. The string orchestra one is my favorite (aside from the original piano solo). I liked the guitar solo transcription a lot, but I didn't care much for the guitar duet.
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".

North Star

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Quote from: EigenUser on May 12, 2016, 05:59:02 AM
I know that people here seem to not like orchestrations done by someone other than the composer, but I think they are all worth hearing. The string orchestra one is my favorite (aside from the original piano solo). I liked the guitar solo transcription a lot, but I didn't care much for the guitar duet.
Oh, I own the Chailly recording of the Verbey orchestration, and certainly agree it's worth hearing. I'll check out the string orchestra arrangement now.

E: Or would, if the video was available here. But I found another string orchestra arrangement, by Angelo Sturiale (1996): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc7T0rPO6ro
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Jo498

Quote from: Florestan on May 12, 2016, 04:18:50 AM
Guys, don´t get overtechnical, please! I meant not the first composition ever wrote by X or Y, but their Op. 1 published as such.  :D

Of course Beethoven composed a lot more before his first piano trios (including some later piano sonatas if I´m not mistaken), nevertheless it´s precisely those that he deem´d suitable for making his entrance in the big business.
Yes, the Beethoven op.1 is a "self-confident debut". And one can probably make a similar case for Erlkönig.
But the Bach partitas are so far from a debut that they are only technically an op.1 as they are actually the last of at least six sets of suites/sonatas (French, English, solo cello, solo violin, violin/harpsichord, partitas) Bach wrote...
Tout le malheur des hommes vient d'une seule chose, qui est de ne savoir pas demeurer en repos, dans une chambre.
- Blaise Pascal

Florestan

Quote from: Jo498 on May 12, 2016, 06:43:20 AM
a "self-confident debut"

Exactly, that was my idea when starting the thread.

"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

vandermolen

Richard Arnell's 'Classical Variations' Op.1 is supposed to be good but haven't heard it yet.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).