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Re: Deutschland Uber Alles
« Reply #40 on: June 03, 2016, 11:46:43 AM »
Hey somehow I forgot Rolf Riehm. Probably read "Rihm" a little too quickly a second time around.

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Re: Deutschland Uber Alles
« Reply #41 on: June 03, 2016, 06:59:57 PM »
Oh, I am not suggesting that there is not ample encouragement to escapism.

Javoll Herr Kommandant ;)

Hey somehow I forgot Rolf Riehm. Probably read "Rihm" a little too quickly a second time around.

Ja, unt Ulrich Gasser

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Re: Deutschland Uber Alles
« Reply #42 on: June 03, 2016, 07:20:44 PM »
snyprrr, my new favorite poster, I remembered that I HAD heard Thomas Bruttger. I had gotten this mp3 comp because I'm a fan of the other three dudes. Regardless, that double album looks like candy. I'll report back eventually.


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Re: Deutschland Uber Alles
« Reply #43 on: June 03, 2016, 07:38:07 PM »
snyprrr, my new favorite poster, I remembered that I HAD heard Thomas Bruttger. I had gotten this mp3 comp because I'm a fan of the other three dudes. Regardless, that double album looks like candy. I'll report back eventually.



Himmelbieber!!

I just ordered that today! Und das Ruzicka Vol.1 Und das Rihm bla bla... und vat else??? oy!! I managed to talk myself out of a grosses Rihm expenditure... ist sehr dangerous, ja... das CPO disc was able to destroy mit eine Kompanion auf  Kompositors meine lust fur CDCDCD.

Plus, I got a flat tire...



(So, anyhow, I'm trying to step away from the brink here. I'm not even looking at anymore NEOS/KAIROS or any of that stuff, nope, not me, uh uh. The thing I like about the Germans sometimes is the sleekness (BAZ, Holler, Ruzicka), but, there is such a Plurality of Styles that, thankfully, there's plenty to not like.)


btw- Ablinger means to me: snippet of pre-record/ snippet of 'live' musican(s)... I understand your term "purity"... I'd like to be as infuriating a Composer as her makes me!!

btw- Nicolaus A. Huber: I have a BVAAST disc (SQ, sax?, perc., SQ2) and that CPO coming. I've heard a few of his things...  but, sometimes I wonder, is there much THERE there????? Is he a low-octane Kagel? what am I missing here? He seems preoccupied with potty humour of some kind... I like the disc I have, some of what I hear makes me shake my head like an old woman...???...

btw- got to the end of 'Morphonie'... wow, heard a little Roy Harris at the ending chorale, lol!... quite a jet black horror show that piece... very impressive...

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Re: Deutschland Uber Alles
« Reply #44 on: June 07, 2016, 06:15:35 PM »
Threads in waiting?

Holliger Hollow
Kommandant Kalitze's Kommandcenter
Lang Lagoon
Mahnkopf's Mancave
Pintscher Plaza
Reimann's Rendezvous
Widmann's Water Cooler
Zender's Zany Zoo

Etc :)

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Re: Deutschland Uber Alles
« Reply #45 on: June 08, 2016, 06:22:41 AM »
Threads in waiting?

Holliger Hollow
Kommandant Kalitze's Kommandcenter
Lang Lagoon
Mahnkopf's Mancave
Pintscher Plaza- should be Pintscher's Loaf
Reimann's Rendezvous
Widmann's Water Cooler
Zender's Zany Zoo Zender's Bender

Etc :)

check out my Holliger thread already!



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Re: Deutschland Uber Alles
« Reply #46 on: June 15, 2016, 07:25:16 PM »
Threads in waiting?


Etc :)

Flammer?
Hanspeter Kyburz?
Goebbels?
Furrer?
Steinke?
Reihm...mentioned

snyprrr, my new favorite poster, I remembered that I HAD heard Thomas Bruttger. I had gotten this mp3 comp because I'm a fan of the other three dudes. Regardless, that double album looks like candy. I'll report back eventually.



Just got the CPO... the Staebler opens - and then the typewriter, excellent!!-


Yes, the final purchases arrived and i am now starting back with the Zimmermann Requiem..... really picked up some sweet stuff here lately...

I have to take the CDCDCD Pledge, and say,-

"Gosh, you know, I'm really just satisfied right now with everything in The Library, and I think we can adjourn Buying Season for the year- barring any unforeseen- but, yes, I AM SATISIFIED and relinquish my perceived need to PURCHASE ITEMS instead of utilizing the vast array of free technology at my disposal. This I say of my own free will and do here declare that I am free of all buying triggers, internal and external. May we all wipe our brows and say, 'Thank God.'"




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Re: Deutschland Uber Alles
« Reply #47 on: June 24, 2016, 08:42:30 AM »
Somehow I missed Josef Anton Riedl. A grave mistake, surely.

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Re: Deutschland Goober Alles
« Reply #48 on: June 24, 2016, 10:43:43 PM »
snyppps, old thing, you worry us sometimes.

Yes - I think a little "enforced-sonic-treatement" may be in order for ol' snyppps

We'll restrain him - play this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd87l-kZl94) in the background constantly - and begin the treatment:

The Germans, who make doctrines out of everything, deal with music learnedly; the Italians, being voluptuous, seek in it lively, though fleeting, sensations; the French, more vain than perceptive, manage to speak of it wittily; and the English pay for it . . . - Stendhal

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Re: Deutschland Goober Alles
« Reply #49 on: June 25, 2016, 12:31:49 PM »
Yes - I think a little "enforced-sonic-treatement" may be in order for ol' snyppps

We'll restrain him - play this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd87l-kZl94) in the background constantly - and begin the treatment:



IS THAT ALL YOU'VE GOT?? :laugh:

That was ok for me... I'll raise you some Florence Foster Jenkins (FloFo)... that Gliere sounded pretty German though... lol, good stuff...

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Re: Deutschland Uber Alles
« Reply #50 on: July 29, 2016, 08:34:49 PM »
BREAKING NEWS:

Hans Zender + Freshly Rolled Blunt = Basically Sounds Like Mozart, But Better

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Re: Deutschland Uber Alles
« Reply #51 on: July 31, 2016, 06:20:37 AM »
BREAKING NEWS:

Hans Zender + Freshly Rolled Blunt = Basically Sounds Like Mozart, But Better

duuuude ;)

I'm in my "considering Feldman a German Composer" phase! (just loving those Zender/Feldman concertos right now!)

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Re: Deutschland Uber Alles
« Reply #52 on: August 03, 2016, 11:52:46 AM »
duuuude ;)

I'm in my "considering Feldman a German Composer" phase! (just loving those Zender/Feldman concertos right now!)

Why yes, it's an utterly magnificent set of concerti, but have you listened to Zender's own music? Or at least some of his "composed interpretations"?

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Re: Deutschland Uber Alles
« Reply #53 on: August 03, 2016, 12:06:28 PM »
Why yes, it's an utterly magnificent set of concerti, but have you listened to Zender's own music? Or at least some of his "composed interpretations"?

I've only heard about/seen the Schubert thingy... the Zender/Aritti disc was the only one I didn't get in time... has never been available as far as I know...  there's also that CPO disc, along with 'Zeitraume'(?)... he's a "flute" kind of guy??

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Re: Deutschland Uber Alles
« Reply #54 on: September 07, 2016, 12:11:49 PM »
Cross-posted from the "Purchases Today" thread:

Something I stumbled on by chance at an AmDE MP seller (it's long OOP), and that I didn't even know existed until now. It immediately sparked my curiosity, as I find Hans Zender a rather interesting composer, and the subject matter, "texts and motives from the life of Saint Simeon Stylites (Acta Sanctorum) and 'Ulysses' by James Joyce" (as described in UE's webpage), seems intriguing, to say the least.


Anyone know this opera?  :)
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Re: Deutschland Uber Alles
« Reply #55 on: June 26, 2020, 10:54:03 AM »


Mathias Spahlinger,  128 erfüllte augenblicke – systematisch geordnet, variabel zu spielen für stimme, klarinette und violoncello (1976)

128 fulfilled moments - systematically ordered, variable play for voice, clarinet and violoncello

As the title suggests there's some quite complex discretion left to the performers, I think they can choose the order of the 128 augenblicke. It really works in the performance on this CD, I must have listened to it 10 times over the past three weeks -- I can't get enough of it.
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Re: Deutschland Uber Alles
« Reply #56 on: June 26, 2020, 11:05:39 AM »
Apparently it's not on you-tube (the piano concertante work is) ... but there is a bit of mp3 
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Mathias-Spahlinger-geb-1944-Inter-Mezzo-f-Klavier-Orchester/hnum/6778307

Peter Ablinger's series Voices and Piano is a bit in the same, monumental vein, albeit more systematically worked through, I suppose, and more 'melodically coherent'.

https://ablinger.mur.at/voices_and_piano.html
https://ablinger.mur.at/txt_RenateFuczik.html

some of them here, but the CD recording is better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6EUA5-Jtac
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Re: Deutschland Uber Alles
« Reply #57 on: June 27, 2020, 01:33:33 AM »
Apparently it's not on you-tube (the piano concertante work is) ... but there is a bit of mp3 
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Mathias-Spahlinger-geb-1944-Inter-Mezzo-f-Klavier-Orchester/hnum/6778307

Peter Ablinger's series Voices and Piano is a bit in the same, monumental vein, albeit more systematically worked through, I suppose, and more 'melodically coherent'.

https://ablinger.mur.at/voices_and_piano.html
https://ablinger.mur.at/txt_RenateFuczik.html

some of them here, but the CD recording is better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6EUA5-Jtac

The Ablinger seems to have a comedic quality  -- noone could say that about the Spahlinger! (Or maybe they could -- I have no idea what they're singing about in the Spahlinger!)

Here it is if you want to try it

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hbKssA-IhERgbGv4HKDmcySfVj7kDcdw/view?usp=sharing
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Re: Deutschland Uber Alles
« Reply #58 on: June 27, 2020, 10:43:23 PM »
The Ablinger seems to have a comedic quality  -- noone could say that about the Spahlinger! (Or maybe they could -- I have no idea what they're singing about in the Spahlinger!)

Here it is if you want to try it

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hbKssA-IhERgbGv4HKDmcySfVj7kDcdw/view?usp=sharing

Thank you. I listened to the whole piece yesterday. The fragmented, apparently non-sensical utterances (unless there are single syllables with some meaning) would perhaps make one think a bit of earlier, rather well-known works like Schwitters Ursonate, still much more verbal though; Ligeti's Aventures, or Blacher's Abstrakte Oper. But Spahlinger's piece is of course more sparse and pointilistic. I noticed a bit of mood changes around 9 minutes in, and at the end; the first with much longer notes and somehow reminding me of someone humming Brucknerian passages of grandeur; the second being a very short example of more lyrical mood, maybe reminding a bit of say Jolas' Quatuor II. I'd probably prefer a bit more going on in the piece, such as in Ligeti's Aventures/Nouvelles Aventures, but I don't regret hearing it, Spahlinger also being very modestly represented in my collection (and BTW only with a couple of works being definitely avant-garde; I don't know if he has made more 'moderate' pieces).
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Re: Deutschland Uber Alles
« Reply #59 on: June 27, 2020, 11:15:56 PM »
I quite like the Jolas (and indeed the Schwitters.) The event at about 9 minutes in the Spahlinger is very memorable for me. (The Jolas has a similar mood change.) Another piece by Spahlinger which caught my imagination is Farben Der Fruhe (for seven, yes seven, pianos!)
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