One of the best pieces of music I've ever listened to.

Started by SKYIO, May 21, 2016, 10:21:56 AM

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SKYIO

https://www.youtube.com/v/a3kppGPHEXU



I've never listened to anything similar to this. It sounds so strong. I don't even know where to look, to find music of this sort. Can anyone help?


If you could lead me on the right path I would be infinitely grateful.

SKYIO

Now after listening a few times it's not as good as I thought. Something about the music is missing, it hasn't got that ring, that cling. Not many things seem to be going on. Is this music made by computers?


Anyway, I still love it, it just feels very different from the normal stuff I listen to (bach, brahms, bethoven etc.)

Brian

It sounds like a bit of an imitation of Prokofiev. Consider these two Prokofiev pieces and how that clip compares to them:

The section beginning at 1:34, which I think that the 'XFM' video's music directly copies:

http://www.youtube.com/v/ljOMXgfflRI

And this in general.

http://www.youtube.com/v/CbcesEZTbIo

If you like these, I think most of GMG would agree that you should try these classic CDs:
- Prokofiev: Romeo and Juliet. Cleveland Orchestra, Lorin Maazel, Decca
- Prokofiev: Alexander Nevsky, Lieutenant Kije. Berlin Philharmonic, Claudio Abbado, DG
and one of either
- Prokofiev: Symphony No. 5 (also with Bartok). Cleveland Orchestra, George Szell, Sony
- Prokofiev: Symphonies 1, 5, 6, 7. Various orchestras, Vladimir Ashkenazy, Decca

Brian

BTW I was able to learn that the clip you posted is by Yoshihisa Hirano. Google Translate auto-translates the title as "Assassination Family Mansion" but there's no way that can be correct.

SKYIO

Quote from: Brian on May 21, 2016, 01:04:14 PM
It sounds like a bit of an imitation of Prokofiev. Consider these two Prokofiev pieces and how that clip compares to them:

The section beginning at 1:34, which I think that the 'XFM' video's music directly copies:

http://www.youtube.com/v/ljOMXgfflRI

And this in general.

http://www.youtube.com/v/CbcesEZTbIo

If you like these, I think most of GMG would agree that you should try these classic CDs:
- Prokofiev: Romeo and Juliet. Cleveland Orchestra, Lorin Maazel, Decca
- Prokofiev: Alexander Nevsky, Lieutenant Kije. Berlin Philharmonic, Claudio Abbado, DG
and one of either
- Prokofiev: Symphony No. 5 (also with Bartok). Cleveland Orchestra, George Szell, Sony
- Prokofiev: Symphonies 1, 5, 6, 7. Various orchestras, Vladimir Ashkenazy, Decca

I'm going to buy the CDs! Those were two very good tracks, I liked them very much. The first one I liked a lot more(Romeo and Juliet), because it was so incredibly strong and so similar to this XFM piece I posted.

SKYIO

Quote from: Brian on May 21, 2016, 01:07:55 PM
BTW I was able to learn that the clip you posted is by Yoshihisa Hirano. Google Translate auto-translates the title as "Assassination Family Mansion" but there's no way that can be correct.

What I immediately noticed about the Romeo and Juliet piece was that it had that cling/ring that was missing in the XFM piece I posted.


I'm going to do some research on this Yoshihisa Hirano person, I'm really intrigued by how their music was created. I'l come back later, sometime, when I've found out more.

71 dB

Quote from: SKYIO on May 21, 2016, 01:19:28 PM
The first one I liked a lot more(Romeo and Juliet), because it was so incredibly strong and so similar to this XFM piece I posted.

Yes, get Romeo and Juliet (for example the Mazel/Decca twofer). Very emotional ballet indeed!  :)
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Quote from: Brian on May 21, 2016, 01:04:14 PM
If you like these, I think most of GMG would agree that you should try these classic CDs:
- Prokofiev: Romeo and Juliet. Cleveland Orchestra, Lorin Maazel, Decca

Some of us might recommend the Ozawa recording. What I heard of the Maazel was very good but sounded more like an orchestral showpiece than a ballet -- probably a matter of personal preference. But I know I'm not the only fan of the Ozawa. (I have Gergiev/Philips too but didn't like the sound on it.)

But I definitely agree about the piece.

Spineur

Quote from: SKYIO on May 21, 2016, 01:19:28 PM
I'm going to buy the CDs! Those were two very good tracks, I liked them very much. The first one I liked a lot more(Romeo and Juliet), because it was so incredibly strong and so similar to this XFM piece I posted.
These are also some of my prokofiev favorites.  You can also watch Eisenstein movies "Alexandre Nevski" and "Ivan the Terrible".  In addition to the wonderful music of Prokofiev, there are some pretty awsome scene like the charge of the teutonic knights on a frozen lake.

Mirror Image

Quote from: Pat B on May 24, 2016, 02:39:00 PM
Some of us might recommend the Ozawa recording. What I heard of the Maazel was very good but sounded more like an orchestral showpiece than a ballet -- probably a matter of personal preference. But I know I'm not the only fan of the Ozawa. (I have Gergiev/Philips too but didn't like the sound on it.)

But I definitely agree about the piece.

Yes! Ozawa's Romeo & Juliet is one of the best IMHO. I never liked Maazel's for the afore reason you mentioned and also I just thought it was a bit over-the-top and, in most cases, too aggressive even when the music didn't call for it, but I'm not a Maazel fan much to begin with, so perhaps this is just the ol' personal bias rearing its' ugly head.

Heck148

Quote from: Mirror Image on May 30, 2016, 06:29:17 AM
Yes! Ozawa's Romeo & Juliet is one of the best IMHO. I never liked Maazel's for the afore reason you mentioned and also I just thought it was a bit over-the-top and, in most cases, too aggressive even when the music didn't call for it, but I'm not a Maazel fan much to begin with, so perhaps this is just the ol' personal bias rearing its' ugly head.

Previn/LSO complete is very good, also...for the Suites , or selections - Mitropoulos/NYPO is tough to match...really high-powered stuff...

Mirror Image

Quote from: Heck148 on May 30, 2016, 06:54:55 AM
Previn/LSO complete is very good, also...for the Suites , or selections - Mitropoulos/NYPO is tough to match...really high-powered stuff...

Yes...Previn is quite good, too. I never cared for Gergiev's recordings of Romeo & Juliet, but, in all honesty, I'm not a huge fan of the ballet anyway and prefer Prokofiev's other ballets, especially the lesser known ones like Le pas de acier, On the Dnieper, and The Prodigal Son. I'm still not completely convinced by The Stone Flower, although there's some lovely sections, but it's just overlong for me.

Heck148

Quote from: Mirror Image on May 30, 2016, 07:31:56 AM
Yes...Previn is quite good, too. I never cared for Gergiev's recordings of Romeo & Juliet, but, in all honesty, I'm not a huge fan of the ballet anyway and prefer Prokofiev's other ballets, especially the lesser known ones like Le pas de acier, On the Dnieper, and The Prodigal Son....

Don't know Gergiev' s R & J...Pas D'Acier is good, so is "Chout" [Prokofieff's answer to Petrushka??]

Mirror Image

Quote from: Heck148 on May 30, 2016, 08:04:47 AM
Don't know Gergiev' s R & J...Pas D'Acier is good, so is "Chout" [Prokofieff's answer to Petrushka??]

Yes, I've come to enjoy Chout after repeated listening. It's grown on me. You don't know On the Dnieper or The Prodigal Son?

Heck148

Quote from: Mirror Image on May 30, 2016, 08:24:03 AM
Yes, I've come to enjoy Chout after repeated listening. It's grown on me. You don't know On the Dnieper or The Prodigal Son?
Don't know "On the Dnieper" - I've only listened to "Prodigal Son" a couple of times - have it on one of those Consonance recordings that is so harsh and strident that it is essentially unlistenable.

Karl Henning

Quote from: Heck148 on May 30, 2016, 11:17:45 AM
I've only listened to "Prodigal Son" a couple of times - have it on one of those Consonance recordings that is so harsh and strident that it is essentially unlistenable.

Oh, that does the ballet a criminal disservice!
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Quote from: SKYIO on May 21, 2016, 10:21:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/v/a3kppGPHEXU



I've never listened to anything similar to this. It sounds so strong. I don't even know where to look, to find music of this sort. Can anyone help?


If you could lead me on the right path I would be infinitely grateful.

Sounds like some kind of a Russian national anthem