Boris Lyatoshynsky [1895-1968]

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Roasted Swan

Quote from: Symphonic Addict on January 15, 2023, 04:36:40 PMConcerts featuring works like that Lyatoshinsky's symphony have to be special indeed, Jeffrey. How refreshing it would be if most of orchestras (or those in charge of programming the pieces) realized there is more music apart from the same hackneyed stuff. Glad your family and you enjoyed it very much.

Thanks to the BBC for that!!

vandermolen

Quote from: Roasted Swan on January 16, 2023, 08:47:11 AMThanks to the BBC for that!!
It's being broadcast this Tuesday at 7.30 pm (UK time) on BBC Radio 3.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Daverz

Quote from: vandermolen on January 15, 2023, 12:32:37 PM'sounds like 'Planet of the Apes'

That's threatening me with a good time.

relm1

I thoroughly enjoyed the Kirill Karabits's concert performance of Lyatoshynsky's Symphony No. 3.  I think this performance is better than the chandos recording.  That must have been amazing to hear live! 

vandermolen

#104
Quote from: relm1 on January 18, 2023, 05:00:47 PMI thoroughly enjoyed the Kirill Karabits's concert performance of Lyatoshynsky's Symphony No. 3.  I think this performance is better than the chandos recording.  That must have been amazing to hear live! 
Glad you enjoyed it.
It was a very moving occasion and I'm so glad that I made the effort, dragging my family along as well, to go there. Both works (Rachamaninov/Lyatoshynsky) received standing ovations from the packed audience and the moving Silvestrov piano encore in the first half added to the poignancy of the evening. The pianist herself looked very emotional as she came off stage. I agree that the performance of the Lyatoshynsky was terrific.

Here's a review of the concert which I found online:
https://bachtrack.com/review-karabits-fedorova-lyatoshynsky-rachmaninov-bbcso-barbican-january-2023
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

k a rl h e nn i ng

Quote from: vandermolen on January 19, 2023, 12:25:27 AMGlad you enjoyed it.
It was a very moving occasion and I'm so glad that I made the effort, dragging my family along as well, to go there. Both works (Rachamaninov/Lyatoshynsky) received standing ovations from the packed audience and the moving Silvestrov piano encore in the first half added to the poignancy of the evening. The pianist herself looked very emotional as she came off stage. I agree that the performance of the Lyatoshynsky was terrific.

Here's a review of the concert which I found online:
https://bachtrack.com/review-karabits-fedorova-lyatoshynsky-rachmaninov-bbcso-barbican-january-2023
Did you say the concert might be on line?
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

vandermolen

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 19, 2023, 09:52:54 AMDid you say the concert might be on line?
On BBC Sounds for 30 days I think Karl but I'm not sure if you have access to it in downtown Boston!

Here's the link:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001gyn0
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

k a rl h e nn i ng

Quote from: vandermolen on January 19, 2023, 10:48:32 AMOn BBC Sounds for 30 days I think Karl but I'm not sure if you have access to it in downtown Boston!

Here's the link:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001gyn0
Thanks! I know a work-around.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Roy Bland


k a rl h e nn i ng

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

vandermolen

#110
Having been privileged to hear Lyatoshynsky's 3rd Symphony live last Sunday, in London, I thought that I'd do a survey of all four CD recordings of the work (two on Russian Disc/one on Marco Polo/Naxos and the more recent Chandos recording). The earliest is the live Mravinsky recording with the Leningrad PO from 1955 (it must be the first recording of the recently completed work). David Fanning in a survey of soviet symphonies (Musicweb) advised against it stating that it was poorly performed and recorded. It's true that the rather raucous recording is characteristic of soviet-era productions of that period. However, I enjoyed the performance itself rather more than did Mr Fanning and felt that it has a pioneering urgency about it. I also enjoyed the Lyadov works (Baba-Yaga and The Enchanted Lake) on the same CD. Far better recorded is the alternative Russian Disc release (1994) with Vladimir Gnedash conducting the Ukrainian Radio and TV SO. I don't think that anyone would be disappointed with this performance although, arguably, even better is the contemporaneous (1993) release on Marco Polo/Naxos with the Ukrainian State SO conducted by Theodore Kuchar. This IMO is the best version of the revised edition of the Symphony No.3. Best of all, however, is the recent (2019) recording of the original version (the only one featuring the original, rather darker, finale) conducted by Kirill Karabits (the conductor from last Sunday) with the Bournemouth SO on Chandos (last Sunday's concert which is still available online for c.25 days on BBC Sounds was with the BBC SO). This one also features the most interesting filler - 'Grazhyna' which is arguably Lyatoshynsky's masterpiece. So, in conclusion, being an obsessive completist, I wouldn't be without any of these recordings. However I think that the Naxos/Marco Polo recording is the best one of the revised version, although the No.1 choice has to be the Karabits recording of the original version on Chandos.

PS I wonder how many people spend their Saturday nights conducting comparative surveys of recordings of Lyatoshynsky's 3rd Symphony  8)
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

k a rl h e nn i ng

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

relm1

Quote from: vandermolen on January 21, 2023, 11:51:44 AMHaving been privileged to hear Lyatoshynsky's 3rd Symphony live last Sunday, in London, I thought that I'd do a survey of all four CD recordings of the work (two on Russian Disc/one on Marco Polo/Naxos and the more recent Chandos recording). The earliest is the live Mravinsky recording with the Leningrad PO from 1955 (it must be the first recording of the recently completed work). David Fanning in a survey of soviet symphonies (Musicweb) advised against it stating that it was poorly performed and recorded. It's true that the rather raucous recording is characteristic of soviet-era productions of that period. However, I enjoyed the performance itself rather more than did Mr Fanning and felt that it has a pioneering urgency about it. I also enjoyed the Lyadov works (Baba-Yaga and The Enchanted Lake) on the same CD. Far better recorded is the alternative Russian Disc release (1994) with Vladimir Gnedash conducting the Ukrainian Radio and TV SO. I don't think that anyone would be disappointed with this performance although, arguably, even better is the contemporaneous (1993) release on Marco Polo/Naxos with the Ukrainian State SO conducted by Theodore Kuchar. This IMO is the best version of the revised edition of the Symphony No.3. Best of all, however, is the recent (2019) recording of the original version (the only one featuring the original, rather darker, finale) conducted by Kirill Karabits (the conductor from last Sunday) with the Bournemouth SO on Chandos (last Sunday's concert which is still available online for c.25 days on BBC Sounds was with the BBC SO). This one also features the most interesting filler - 'Grazhyna' which is arguably Lyatoshynsky's masterpiece. So, in conclusion, being an obsessive completist, I wouldn't be without any of these recordings. However I think that the Naxos/Marco Polo recording is the best one of the revised version, although the No.1 choice has to be the Karabits recording of the original version on Chandos.

PS I wonder how many people spend their Saturday nights conducting comparative surveys of recordings of Lyatoshynsky's 3rd Symphony  8)


My favorite is the 1993 Marco Polo/Naxos with the Ukrainian State SO conducted by Theodore Kuchar because for me, it has the best first and second movement.

k a rl h e nn i ng

Quote from: vandermolen on January 19, 2023, 10:48:32 AMOn BBC Sounds for 30 days I think Karl but I'm not sure if you have access to it in downtown Boston!

Here's the link:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001gyn0
Superb piece! Great concert!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

vandermolen

Quote from: relm1 on January 21, 2023, 05:15:31 PMMy favorite is the 1993 Marco Polo/Naxos with the Ukrainian State SO conducted by Theodore Kuchar because for me, it has the best first and second movement.
Yes, it's a fine recording I agree.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

vandermolen

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 21, 2023, 05:33:32 PMSuperb piece! Great concert!
Good to know Karl.
I'm delighted that you enjoyed it.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

k a rl h e nn i ng

#116
Quote from: vandermolen on January 21, 2023, 11:51:44 AMBest of all, however, is the recent (2019) recording of the original version (the only one featuring the original, rather darker, finale) conducted by Kirill Karabits (the conductor from last Sunday) with the Bournemouth SO on Chandos (last Sunday's concert which is still available online for c.25 days on BBC Sounds was with the BBC SO). This one also features the most interesting filler - 'Grazhyna' which is arguably Lyatoshynsky's masterpiece.
I wound up getting this as an mp3 album. In trying to find information about Grazhyna (beautiful score, BTW) I read [most of] an abysmally sneering, dismissive review of the composer. None of which means a damn, but I mention it only because I wonder that reviewers can still be so blinkered and fatuous.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot