10 favourite British Composers

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Jo498

If I have to look it up or don't understand it, it is utterly pretentious, of course.

I have never heard Haiastan on German news (frankly, I never heard or saw the word before) but there is a strange tendency to try some names in local pronunciation (or use local names) whereas others are still used in a germanized (or sometimes internationalized) way. E.g. when I was a kid in the 1980s, everyone called the capital of China "Peking", now it is usually Beijing on TV or radio news. But it would still appear ridiculous to pronounce Paris in the French way or say "Roma", "Venezia" or "Bucuresti" (instead of Rom, Venedig, Bukarest). Not sure why this changed with Beijing and some other places.
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Florestan

Quote from: Jo498 on July 26, 2016, 01:37:58 AM
I have never heard Haiastan on German news (frankly, I never heard or saw the word before)

Actually, it´s Hayastan and nobody, except Armenians and pretentious pricks, uses it.  ;D

QuoteE.g. when I was a kid in the 1980s, everyone called the capital of China "Peking", now it is usually Beijing on TV or radio news.

Same here.  :)

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But it would still appear ridiculous to pronounce Paris in the French way or say "Roma", "Venezia" or "Bucuresti" (instead of Rom, Venedig, Bukarest).

Same here with pronouncing London, Bayern or Warszawa instead of Londra, Bavaria or Varşovia.  :laugh:
"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

Christo

Quote from: Florestan on July 26, 2016, 08:28:44 AM
Actually, it´s Hayastan and nobody, except Armenians and pretentious pricks, uses it.  ;D
It's Hayastan in the English transliteration - but of course I use Dutch transliterations as my shelves happen to listen to that language (knew this one was coming). :-)
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

Jo498

So you aren't using the Armenian Alphabet? If pretentious prick anyway, go for it!
Tout le malheur des hommes vient d'une seule chose, qui est de ne savoir pas demeurer en repos, dans une chambre.
- Blaise Pascal

Christo

Quote from: Jo498 on July 26, 2016, 01:15:14 PMSo you aren't using the Armenian Alphabet? If pretentious prick anyway, go for it!
No pretensions here. But yes, I did my best to learn the Armenian and Georgian alphabets while there. Just as I happen to be surrounded, at the moment (holiday in the Galilee) by both the Arab and Hebrew alphabet. Again: very tempting.  :)
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

Florestan

Quote from: Christo on July 26, 2016, 01:22:09 PM
No pretensions here. But yes, I did my best to learn the Armenian and Georgian alphabets while there.

Have you also learned some Armenian or Georgian?
"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

Christo

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Quote from: Florestan on July 27, 2016, 12:58:00 AM
Have you also learned some Armenian or Georgian?

Alas. Did you? Especially Georgian culture and religion should arouse your lively interest, if only because of its distant relationship with its Romanian counterparts, I'd say.

(Curious how long the moderators will tolerate our distraction.)  8)
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

Christo

BTT: I confess to having forged a list here of some sort, but in reality I admire dozens of British composers, mostly from the beginnings of a national school on (which came late, only in the first decade of the 20th century). Yesterday I played some Alwyn and Arnell: both also deserve to be included, just as Bate, Howells, Foulds, Rawsthorne, Hoddinott, even Delius and Bantock
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

vandermolen

VW
Bax
Bate
Alwyn
Arnell
Rubbra
Arthur Butterworth (Symph.4 in particular)
Moeran
Foulds
HB
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

ComposerOfAvantGarde


some guy


ComposerOfAvantGarde

Quote from: some guy on August 01, 2016, 03:09:49 AM
Haha, good one, jessop!
Hey some guy! I was missing you for a bit because you don't seem to post here for periods of time every now and then.

I bet you could easily come up with 10 other brits with HB initials though

$:) $:) $:)

some guy

Well, it's good to be missed, I must say. :)

But yeah, from time to time there is just nothing I want to say about anything being discussed.

And making threads is sometimes tedious, too.

And I certainly could not come up with 10 other brits with the initials HB. I did wonder, briefly, how many I could come up with, but as soon as a certain French person's name popped into my head, I thought I'd better just stop wondering.

vandermolen

"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

André

Much easier to list top 10 British than top ten French or Italian. Especially since "British" covers Welsh, Irish, Scots and "mixed breeds" if I may say so.

- Vaughan-Williams - À tout Seigneur, tout honneur (just google it  :D)
- Delius, the Crown Prince
- Elgar
- Arnold
- Holst
- Hoddinott
- Jones
- Britten
- Alwyn
- Rubbra
- Hoddinott, Howells, Bliss, Brian, Bax - where is one to stop  ::) ?

vandermolen

Today's list:

Bax
Vaughan Williams
Walton
Rubbra
Bate
Bliss
Rootham
Rawsthorne
Holst
Arnold
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Monsieur Croche

Quote from: North Star on July 21, 2016, 02:18:18 PM
Naturalized at the tender young age of 42. Händel was every bit as British as Medtner, or Stravinsky an American.

This is a bump.

In my experience, the rather inconvenient truth - that composers who immigrate after a full and earlier life of training, their 'voice' and career already well-established, are -- as composers -- of their 'native' and not their adopted nationality. 

Every time I've brought up this point re: Händel, the English members go a bit round the bend, get their knickers in a twist. etc ;-)

Just as risible as calling Händel an English composer is calling Stravinsky (and Schoenberg) 'American Composers.'


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Andante

Quote from: some guy on July 21, 2016, 03:40:18 AM
Yes, me too.

I've been living in Europe for the past four years, here and there, and there are two things that are important to everyone but me, where I was born and when I was born.
Not why were you born
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Anyway, yes to Gerhard and to Rawsthorne as well, why not?

Natasha Barrett (unless she counts as Norwegian, now)
Diana Salazar
Tim Hodgkinson
Chris Cutler
Jonty Harrison
Keith Rowe
Anna Clyne
Graham Lambkin
Wow Why have I not heard of these composers
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North Star

Benjamin Britten
Edward Elgar
Ralph Vaughan Williams
William Byrd
Henry Purcell
John Dowland
Thomas Tallis
Michael Tippett
Gustav Holst
Gerald Finzi
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