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Re: Pieces that have blown you away recently
« Reply #2000 on: September 21, 2022, 02:23:07 AM »
Rota: Suite from 'Il Casanova di Federico Fellini'

For someone who has never watched the movie, this music has been a stupendous revelation. Rota had an incredible gift to write music with personality, spark, wit and depth, and all of that is present in this marvelous suite. The opening O Venezia, Venaga, Venusia has such bewitching simplicity, a haunting and mesmerizing quality to it that left me utterly delighted. Wonderful. One of my best discoveries of the year so far, and I yet have to hear the other suites!




Verdi: Rigoletto

I used to despise Verdi's operas with emphatic aversion. Thank God things have changed for good now. I'm not an opera expert by any means, so what I'll say is that this opera contains truly inspiring and stunning music. In my Verdi opera traversal I've detected that Verdi is more convincing (to me) with tragic or more serious plots than with the most "patriotic" ones.

I suspect that most of his next operas will have a similar effect on me.


I only have one album of Nino Rota's music but it is enjoyable.  I'll have to see if I can find a sampling of that suite on YT.

So glad to hear that you've "come over to the Dark Side" (Verdi).  >:D  Have listened to and been enthralled with his operas, thankfully, for years.  Enjoy your explorations!  :)

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Re: Pieces that have blown you away recently
« Reply #2001 on: September 21, 2022, 04:47:29 AM »
You know what is a great, great work and recording?  Puccini's Turandot with Pavarotti, Zubin Mehta and London Philharmonic Orchestra.

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Re: Pieces that have blown you away recently
« Reply #2002 on: September 21, 2022, 04:55:26 AM »
You know what is a great, great work and recording?  Puccini's Turandot with Pavarotti, Zubin Mehta and London Philharmonic Orchestra.
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With a big, big cover!   ;D ;)
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Re: Pieces that have blown you away recently
« Reply #2003 on: September 21, 2022, 05:34:46 AM »
I have the complete works of just one major opera composer, and that is Verdi.



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« Reply #2004 on: September 21, 2022, 01:43:06 PM »
I only have one album of Nino Rota's music but it is enjoyable.  I'll have to see if I can find a sampling of that suite on YT.

So glad to hear that you've "come over to the Dark Side" (Verdi).  >:D  Have listened to and been enthralled with his operas, thankfully, for years.  Enjoy your explorations!  :)

PD

Thank you! Hearing those operas with fresh ears has meant a fascinating experience thus far.

OTOH, I could say that all what I've heard by Rota has been nothing but compelling and full of spark. The ballet Le Molière Imaginaire is a must-hear for any fans of his music in my view.
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Re: Pieces that have blown you away recently
« Reply #2005 on: September 21, 2022, 01:45:14 PM »
You know what is a great, great work and recording?  Puccini's Turandot with Pavarotti, Zubin Mehta and London Philharmonic Orchestra.


A desert-island work and recording to me. Many criticise the completion by Alfano, but I don't have any problem with it.
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« Reply #2006 on: September 21, 2022, 10:13:11 PM »
A desert-island work and recording to me. Many criticise the completion by Alfano, but I don't have any problem with it.

If we are on adjacent desert islands it will be in stereo!  I agree about the Alfano - partly because I'm used to it and partly because I'd rather have it and therefore a viable opera with 90% of glorious Puccini than worry about a slightly less inspired completion.  Do you know the "Alfano I" ending?  This is the version Toscannini rejected and Alfano then reworked into the familiar "Alfano II" ending.  I rather like Alfano I - obviusly not Puccini but neither is Alfano as 2nd rate a composer as the usual narrative would suggest.  It was recorded by Josephine Barstow here;



and I think this same version (its the last 20 minutes) has been uploaded to YouTube - just searched and here it is;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q09_thEg6AA

Spotted that conductor of this recording John Mauceri has added a comment to this upload(!);

"Glad this is being shared. There is much to prefer in this duet, like the silence surrounding Turandot's "So il tuo nome!" and the terrifying rage that follows. Just check out the harmonies of the final chorus and you'll realize how angry Alfano had to have been by giving Toscanini a plain vanilla utility orchestration of a tune to bring down the curtain. The original setting  takes us to the era of Mahler and Korngold. I always make sure we perform that version of the finale, even when singers will not learn the original duet that precedes it. Jo and Lando were such great colleagues when we recorded it, and Scottish Opera's orchestra and chorus were in fine form for its first recording ever. Decca was in the last years of its golden age of engineers and producers. Buy the whole recording to salute Barstow's astonishing artistry. Four enormous  finales in four languages ..."

Interesting what Mauceri says about Decca too.....

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« Reply #2007 on: September 23, 2022, 09:00:46 AM »
If we are on adjacent desert islands it will be in stereo!  I agree about the Alfano - partly because I'm used to it and partly because I'd rather have it and therefore a viable opera with 90% of glorious Puccini than worry about a slightly less inspired completion.  Do you know the "Alfano I" ending?  This is the version Toscannini rejected and Alfano then reworked into the familiar "Alfano II" ending.  I rather like Alfano I - obviusly not Puccini but neither is Alfano as 2nd rate a composer as the usual narrative would suggest.  It was recorded by Josephine Barstow here;



and I think this same version (its the last 20 minutes) has been uploaded to YouTube - just searched and here it is;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q09_thEg6AA

Spotted that conductor of this recording John Mauceri has added a comment to this upload(!);

"Glad this is being shared. There is much to prefer in this duet, like the silence surrounding Turandot's "So il tuo nome!" and the terrifying rage that follows. Just check out the harmonies of the final chorus and you'll realize how angry Alfano had to have been by giving Toscanini a plain vanilla utility orchestration of a tune to bring down the curtain. The original setting  takes us to the era of Mahler and Korngold. I always make sure we perform that version of the finale, even when singers will not learn the original duet that precedes it. Jo and Lando were such great colleagues when we recorded it, and Scottish Opera's orchestra and chorus were in fine form for its first recording ever. Decca was in the last years of its golden age of engineers and producers. Buy the whole recording to salute Barstow's astonishing artistry. Four enormous  finales in four languages ..."

Interesting what Mauceri says about Decca too.....

Thanks for the interesting info. I can't have enough Turandot to indulge myself.
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Re: Pieces that have blown you away recently
« Reply #2008 on: September 23, 2022, 10:26:30 AM »
…. I can't have enough Turandot to indulge myself.
In that case, this might interest you, César.

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Re: Pieces that have blown you away recently
« Reply #2009 on: September 23, 2022, 03:06:37 PM »
If we are on adjacent desert islands it will be in stereo!  I agree about the Alfano - partly because I'm used to it and partly because I'd rather have it and therefore a viable opera with 90% of glorious Puccini than worry about a slightly less inspired completion.  Do you know the "Alfano I" ending?  This is the version Toscannini rejected and Alfano then reworked into the familiar "Alfano II" ending.  I rather like Alfano I - obviusly not Puccini but neither is Alfano as 2nd rate a composer as the usual narrative would suggest.  It was recorded by Josephine Barstow here;



and I think this same version (its the last 20 minutes) has been uploaded to YouTube - just searched and here it is;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q09_thEg6AA

Spotted that conductor of this recording John Mauceri has added a comment to this upload(!);

"Glad this is being shared. There is much to prefer in this duet, like the silence surrounding Turandot's "So il tuo nome!" and the terrifying rage that follows. Just check out the harmonies of the final chorus and you'll realize how angry Alfano had to have been by giving Toscanini a plain vanilla utility orchestration of a tune to bring down the curtain. The original setting  takes us to the era of Mahler and Korngold. I always make sure we perform that version of the finale, even when singers will not learn the original duet that precedes it. Jo and Lando were such great colleagues when we recorded it, and Scottish Opera's orchestra and chorus were in fine form for its first recording ever. Decca was in the last years of its golden age of engineers and producers. Buy the whole recording to salute Barstow's astonishing artistry. Four enormous  finales in four languages ..."

Interesting what Mauceri says about Decca too.....

I thought this was fantastic!  I am now going to skip CD 2 - track 10 and after of the Mehta recording and listen instead to Alfano I.  I also listened to Berio's completion and didn't like it as much as this one.  Maybe because I have a personal connection with Mauceri as he taught conducting at my uni and I saw him in masterclasses and Hollywood bowl concerts in the past.  He's amazing and I'd recommend his book too! 
https://www.amazon.com/War-Music-Reclaiming-Twentieth-Century/dp/0300233701

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Re: Pieces that have blown you away recently
« Reply #2010 on: September 23, 2022, 10:36:26 PM »
I thought this was fantastic!  I am now going to skip CD 2 - track 10 and after of the Mehta recording and listen instead to Alfano I.  I also listened to Berio's completion and didn't like it as much as this one.  Maybe because I have a personal connection with Mauceri as he taught conducting at my uni and I saw him in masterclasses and Hollywood bowl concerts in the past.  He's amazing and I'd recommend his book too! 
https://www.amazon.com/War-Music-Reclaiming-Twentieth-Century/dp/0300233701

There was a point when it seemed as if Mauceri was being lined up for quite a significant recording career - think of the Korngold "Das Wunder der Heliane" and quite a few other major Decca recordings which were excellent.  Then whether it was because of the change to Decca that Mauceri alludes to in that YouTube comment or he had some creative falling out that all stopped.  Yes there were on Phillips (as was!) an excellent series of disc with the Hollywood Bowl and also a couple of other film music collections but nothing quite on the level of his earlier discography.  I absolutely love classic film scores and show music too but this does feel "lighter" than his other stuff..... But I do recommend any of the following as excellent - they can still be found 2nd hand and often for quite reasonable prices.....


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Re: Pieces that have blown you away recently
« Reply #2011 on: Today at 04:10:29 AM »
Allan Pettersson's Symphony No.7 & Violin Concerto No.2

Edward Elgar's Enigma Variations, Sea Pictures & Dream of Gerontius