Daphnis et Chloe versus The Rite of Spring

[Ken B]

I admire the suites from Daphnis; but to be honest, the full score is disappointing - and no match for the Sacre IMHO. I think I even prefer Pierné's Cyndalise in that case.

Yes. I took Ghost's comment about the full score as a subtle endorsement of The Rite. 

DC has lovely bits, but isn't a cogent, coherent whole as is Rite, and it has typical bits of Ravel longeurs.

[Ghost Sonata]

Yes. I took Ghost's comment about the full score as a subtle endorsement of The Rite...

Quite so, the Kenster sees through my tricks. I still occasionally enjoy DC kit and kaboodle (it's got pirates in it!) but only rarely.  It was one of the first classical works I ever listened to and thus it's hard to view objectively through the misty fog of time, perfectly duplicated by Ravel's own aural haze. I listen to le Sacre regularly.

[Chronochromie]

I'd go with the Rite on most days. I think Debussy's Jeux is also a worthy contender here.

[Mirror Image]

Stravinsky's Le sacre du printemps without even batting an eye at the other choice.

[Florestan]

I re-listened (after a long, long time) to both last night (Boulez/Cleveland and Dutoit/Montreal, with chorus). My vote goes to Daphnis & Chloe by a slight margin.

Now, substitute Petrushka for The Rite and my vote is reversed.

[Heck148]

Which do you guys enjoy more?

apples and oranges...I love them both.

[Ken B]

I re-listened (after a long, long time) to both last night (Boulez/Cleveland and Dutoit/Montreal, with chorus). My vote goes to Daphnis & Chloe by a slight margin.

Now, substitute Petrushka for The Rite and my vote is reversed.

Romanians

[Florestan]

Romanians

Btw, I love La mer. 

[Ken B]

Btw, I love La mer. 

Romanians do! 

I bet Brian would change his vote for Petrushka too.

[Brian]

Romanians do! 

I bet Brian would change his vote for Petrushka too.

I'm not sure. It would be a difficult decision. I did listen to Petrushka yesterday!

[San Antone]

I didn't vote since I enjoy both works and cannot choose one over the other, but regarding which version of D&C, I prefer listening to the complete ballet.  Regarding Stravinsky, generally, Le Sacre is about the only early work by Stravinsky I listen to regularly.  The Firebird I never put on, and rarely listen to Petrushka.  Except for a few excpetions, everything he wrote post-Rite is fine with me, with his late period being my favorite overall.

[PerfectWagnerite]

So which are the good versions of the complete Daphnis?

The only one I can find on my shelf (there might be a couple others buried there somewhere) is Abbado/LSO which is ok, but a bit dark for me as the winds are rather recessed and colors of the orchestra are rather bland.

It is kind of interesting that neither Igor nor Maurice wrote anything similar again after these works.

[San Antone]

So which are the good versions of the complete Daphnis?

I like Monteux, Boulez, Dutoit and Chailly.  Monteux is great, but the sound is not as good as more recent recordings.  Chailly is my current favorite, aside from a great sounding and good performance, he fills out the recording with Debussy's Khamma.  I haven't heard Abbado.

[mc ukrneal]

So which are the good versions of the complete Daphnis?

Martinon is absolutely excellent. 

[Florestan]

So which are the good versions of the complete Daphnis?

On CD I have only Dutoit / Montreal. Have recently overheard, but not at all attentively, Andriss Nelsons and I can´t remember which French orchestra, on Mezzo.

[Mahlerian]

It is kind of interesting that neither Igor nor Maurice wrote anything similar again after these works.

Schoenberg's Pierrot lunaire too.  It was a popularly successful work that made his international reputation, gained him accolades from, among others, Stravinsky and Ravel, and he never again wrote anything in the same style.

For Stravinsky's part, I think that he became disenchanted with the whole apparatus of the large orchestra, and so he turned to chamber groups and leaner orchestration for the rest of his life.  The rhythmic impulse of the Rite stayed with him until the end, though, and you can hear echoes of that work in everything from Les Noces to the Symphony in Three Movements to Threni to the Requiem Canticles.

[Karl Henning]

For Stravinsky's part, I think that he became disenchanted with the whole apparatus of the large orchestra [....]

With the onset of the Great War, they were not practical.

[Brian]

I like Monteux, Boulez, Dutoit and Chailly.  Monteux is great, but the sound is not as good as more recent recordings.  Chailly is my current favorite, aside from a great sounding and good performance, he fills out the recording with Debussy's Khamma.  I haven't heard Abbado.

This list is perfect!

[Mahlerian]

With the onset of the Great War, they were not practical.

True, but he could have gone back to it afterwards, in the 1920s and 30s, though the tide was definitely changing in the opposite direction as Neoclassicism became the lingua franca.

[pjme]

I didn't vote since I enjoy both works and cannot choose one over the other, but regarding which version of D&C, I prefer listening to the complete ballet.

+ 1! 

P.

ps; I do love Harnasie by Szymanowsky! A glorious work that never gets performed outside Poland...?