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Re: Howard Hanson (1896-1981)
« Reply #180 on: October 05, 2021, 11:36:39 PM »


Maybe the Hanson could not be the most relevant work in the work if we have into account its length: less than 7 minutes, However, Before the dawn, Op. 17 is a magnificent marvelous miniature of a piece. It's Hanson at the height of his late-Romantic and heroic powers.

The content of the cd is appealing and different, quite so from certain record labels.
Am looking forward to receiving that disc Cesar.
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Re: Howard Hanson (1896-1981)
« Reply #181 on: February 28, 2022, 05:41:37 AM »
Maybe Hanson isn't one of the greatest American composers (although, personally, I rate him very highly), but he is one of the most warm-hearted. I'm greatly enjoying revisiting his moving and eloquent Piano Concerto at the moment:
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Re: Howard Hanson (1896-1981)
« Reply #182 on: February 28, 2022, 09:15:23 AM »
Maybe Hanson isn't one of the greatest American composers (although, personally, I rate him very highly), but he is one of the most warm-hearted. I'm greatly enjoying revisiting his moving and eloquent Piano Concerto at the moment:


The PC is a beautiful work indeed, Jeffrey. In addition to the songful lyricism of the slower sections, the quicker sections have an almost jazzy “kick” to them which is quite infectious!
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Re: Howard Hanson (1896-1981)
« Reply #183 on: February 28, 2022, 09:19:00 AM »
Maybe Hanson isn't one of the greatest American composers (although, personally, I rate him very highly), but he is one of the most warm-hearted. I'm greatly enjoying revisiting his moving and eloquent Piano Concerto at the moment:

I certainly underrated him in the long past.
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Re: Howard Hanson (1896-1981)
« Reply #184 on: February 28, 2022, 02:51:18 PM »
Maybe Hanson isn't one of the greatest American composers (although, personally, I rate him very highly), but he is one of the most warm-hearted. I'm greatly enjoying revisiting his moving and eloquent Piano Concerto at the moment:


Nope. Hanson is outstanding.

I also rate him highly. He is undoubtedly one of my favourite American composers. You are correct, in my view. Warm hearted.
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Re: Howard Hanson (1896-1981)
« Reply #185 on: February 28, 2022, 11:51:56 PM »
Nope. Hanson is outstanding.

I also rate him highly. He is undoubtedly one of my favourite American composers. You are correct, in my view. Warm hearted.

Am currently playing his 'Mosaics' - a fine work.
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Re: Howard Hanson (1896-1981)
« Reply #186 on: March 18, 2022, 06:39:12 AM »
Maybe Hanson isn't one of the greatest American composers (although, personally, I rate him very highly), but he is one of the most warm-hearted. I'm greatly enjoying revisiting his moving and eloquent Piano Concerto at the moment:


Yes his symphonies are wonderful!

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Re: Howard Hanson (1896-1981)
« Reply #187 on: March 18, 2022, 07:25:57 PM »
I need to revisit the Hanson symphonies. I'm quite fond of the 3rd and 4th in particular.
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Re: Howard Hanson (1896-1981)
« Reply #188 on: March 18, 2022, 07:31:12 PM »
I need to revisit the Hanson symphonies. I'm quite fond of the 3rd and 4th in particular.

I'm seeing an imminent change of avatar in the next days.  :P ;) ;D
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Re: Howard Hanson (1896-1981)
« Reply #189 on: March 18, 2022, 07:48:52 PM »
I'm seeing an imminent change of avatar in the next days.  :P ;) ;D

Hah! ;D Don't count on it! If I do change my avatar to an American composer, it probably will be either Diamond or Schuman. Of course, Ives, Copland and Barber are never far from consideration either.
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Re: Howard Hanson (1896-1981)
« Reply #190 on: March 18, 2022, 08:46:57 PM »
All of the Hanson symphonies are very fine IMO, save perhaps for the vocal 7th, which, like Atterberg’s last symphony, is the weakest of the bunch IMO but includes a rather moving quotation from his 2nd Symphony. It’s often tempting (even for me!) to dismiss Hanson’s music as sounding “too much like film music” but it’s important to remember that he cultivated his distinctive, warm-hearted style quite a bit before most Hollywood film scores were written!
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Re: Howard Hanson (1896-1981)
« Reply #191 on: March 18, 2022, 09:00:57 PM »
All of the Hanson symphonies are very fine IMO, save perhaps for the vocal 7th, which, like Atterberg’s last symphony, is the weakest of the bunch IMO but includes a rather moving quotation from his 2nd Symphony. It’s often tempting (even for me!) to dismiss Hanson’s music as sounding “too much like film music” but it’s important to remember that he cultivated his distinctive, warm-hearted style quite a bit before most Hollywood film scores were written!

To be honest, I'm at that juncture in life where it doesn't matter what it sounds like just as long as it moves me or stimulates me in some way that makes me glad that I listened in the first-place. If I'm moved by Hanson's music (and I certainly have been), then this is enough for me.
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Re: Howard Hanson (1896-1981)
« Reply #192 on: March 19, 2022, 12:07:03 AM »
I like the early recordings of the symphonies including Hanson's own recordings (Biddulph) of symphonies 1 and 2 and Koussevitky's amazing recording of No.3 (which has to be heard on Dutton). As with Atterberg (and Rubbra IMO) the last symphony (No.7 'Sea Symphony') is not quite as good as the others but I have been listening to it several times recently and learning to appreciate it more.
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Re: Howard Hanson (1896-1981)
« Reply #193 on: March 19, 2022, 02:43:35 AM »
To be honest, I'm at that juncture in life where it doesn't matter what it sounds like just as long as it moves me or stimulates me in some way that makes me glad that I listened in the first-place. If I'm moved by Hanson's music (and I certainly have been), then this is enough for me.

Very much in that place. I love to other opinions and help on understanding and discovering, but if I like a work, a recording or an artist, then that's enough. Life is too short 🙂
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Re: Howard Hanson (1896-1981)
« Reply #194 on: March 19, 2022, 06:16:38 AM »
I like the early recordings of the symphonies including Hanson's own recordings (Biddulph) of symphonies 1 and 2 and Koussevitky's amazing recording of No.3 (which has to be heard on Dutton). As with Atterberg (and Rubbra IMO) the last symphony (No.7 'Sea Symphony') is not quite as good as the others but I have been listening to it several times recently and learning to appreciate it more.

I'll definitely be giving Hanson's own recordings a listen as I own the Mercury Living Presence box sets. Of course, I own the Schwarz recordings, too, and I enjoy these very much.
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Re: Howard Hanson (1896-1981)
« Reply #195 on: March 19, 2022, 06:20:14 AM »
Very much in that place. I love to other opinions and help on understanding and discovering, but if I like a work, a recording or an artist, then that's enough. Life is too short 🙂

Yes, indeed. Life's too short to give a damn what the critical consensus is on a composer's music. As Duke Ellington once said "There's good music and then there's the other kind."
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Re: Howard Hanson (1896-1981)
« Reply #196 on: March 19, 2022, 07:37:00 AM »
To be honest, I'm at that juncture in life where it doesn't matter what it sounds like just as long as it moves me or stimulates me in some way that makes me glad that I listened in the first-place. If I'm moved by Hanson's music (and I certainly have been), then this is enough for me.

Of course, I agree with you! I wasn’t trying to demean Hanson’s music in any way in my previous post. :)
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Re: Howard Hanson (1896-1981)
« Reply #197 on: March 19, 2022, 07:42:26 AM »
Of course, I agree with you! I wasn’t trying to demean Hanson’s music in any way in my previous post. :)

No worries, Kyle. 8)
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Re: Howard Hanson (1896-1981)
« Reply #198 on: March 19, 2022, 07:46:09 AM »
I like the early recordings of the symphonies including Hanson's own recordings (Biddulph) of symphonies 1 and 2 and Koussevitky's amazing recording of No.3 (which has to be heard on Dutton). As with Atterberg (and Rubbra IMO) the last symphony (No.7 'Sea Symphony') is not quite as good as the others but I have been listening to it several times recently and learning to appreciate it more.

There’s a live performance of Koussevitsky and the BSO performing the 3rd Symphony on YT. Not sure if it’s different from the Dutton recording: https://youtu.be/j6qRZbDXWCE

The sound quality is serviceable at best, but you should have fewer problems with it than I do, Jeffrey. ;) Of course, the Schwarz/Seattle recording on Naxos is very good, but I’d love to hear a brand new modern recording of this great symphony with a really inspired conductor and world-class orchestra. 
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Re: Howard Hanson (1896-1981)
« Reply #199 on: March 20, 2022, 03:39:24 AM »
There’s a live performance of Koussevitsky and the BSO performing the 3rd Symphony on YT. Not sure if it’s different from the Dutton recording: https://youtu.be/j6qRZbDXWCE

The sound quality is serviceable at best, but you should have fewer problems with it than I do, Jeffrey. ;) Of course, the Schwarz/Seattle recording on Naxos is very good, but I’d love to hear a brand new modern recording of this great symphony with a really inspired conductor and world-class orchestra.
It sounds like a great performance Kyle - I'm not sure if this is what was released on Dutton but it has the same gravity at the opening, unlike any other recording known to me.
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