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Andante

Quote from: Thatfabulousalien on November 20, 2016, 11:50:29 AM
I know that  ::)

I mean that he seems to me to have that sort of cultural idol that Sibelius does. Granted, he's not as popular as Sibelius but still.
OK so which work do you consider sounds like Sibelius perhaps give an example, I actually like some of his works.
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vandermolen

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Quote from: Thatfabulousalien on November 20, 2016, 12:13:07 AM
I love Lilburn, his third Symphony is more to my taste though. Is it just me or is Lilburn NZs Sibelius?  ;)

Absolutely right I think (Sibelius comment) in terms of his national standing (or maybe not according to above comments) and the sound of symphonies 1 and 2 in particular - which I think do, in places, sound like Sibelius and his teacher VW.
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ComposerOfAvantGarde

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The only Lilburn I have ever listened to is 'Three Inscapes' of which the second was the only one that particularly interested me.

Some parts kind of remind me of the way RVW orchestrates, some parts kind of remind me of the seamless shifts from one idea to the next and an almost inaudible barline associated with Sibelius maybe? I have to think hard to make those links and it seems rather silly to make that comparison anyway because I am sure that 'Three Inscapes' is totally different to anything either RVW or Sibelius would have written.

Andante

Quote from: Thatfabulousalien on November 20, 2016, 07:37:21 PM
I didn't say that he sounds like Sibelius.....  ::)
Then why link Sibelius and Lilburn in the same sentence, it would have been more appropriate to have said Vaughn Williams or is there a Sibelius connection there that I am missing  ::) ::)
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ComposerOfAvantGarde

I recently checked out some other pieces on the recording that Three Inscapes is on and i really enjoyed some of them. None of them really sound anything like Vaughan Williams OR Sibelius to me (unless I squint and tilt my head to one side) so I have no idea what you guys are talking about haha.

vandermolen

Quote from: jessop on November 22, 2016, 01:54:48 AM
I recently checked out some other pieces on the recording that Three Inscapes is on and i really enjoyed some of them. None of them really sound anything like Vaughan Williams OR Sibelius to me (unless I squint and tilt my head to one side) so I have no idea what you guys are talking about haha.
I think that Symphony 2 is the most Sibelian - certainly like Sibelius there is a strong sense of nature and a powerful brooding quality to some of the music. All subjective of course.  :)
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Andante

Quote from: jessop on November 22, 2016, 01:54:48 AM
I recently checked out some other pieces on the recording that Three Inscapes is on and i really enjoyed some of them. None of them really sound anything like Vaughan Williams OR Sibelius to me (unless I squint and tilt my head to one side) so I have no idea what you guys are talking about haha.
I agree, I was only using RVW as a possibility due to his musical relationship with Lilburn. Lilburn has his own sound as far as I am concerned
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