Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)

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Karl Henning

Quote from: SimonNZ on October 29, 2018, 06:42:20 AM
Your so-called "lone wolves" are feeding off a culture of paranoia and misinformation.

As is zb herself.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

SimonNZ

Report: President Trump Barely Works at All

"Early this year, Axios obtained a schedule of President Trump's activities, revealing hour after hour of "Executive Time" — which means, mostly, binge-watching cable television news and tweeting. Politico has obtained another weekly Trump schedule, and if anything, it appears to contain even less actual work.

Tuesday's schedule featured nine hours of "Executive Time" and just over three hours of work. Other days on the schedule were only slightly busier. Trump had no meetings or commitments before 11 a.m. on any day of the week. Every day included long blocks of unstructured screen time."

zamyrabyrd

"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one."

― Charles MacKay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

zamyrabyrd

Quote from: SimonNZ on October 29, 2018, 06:42:20 AM
Your so-called "lone wolves" are feeding off a culture of paranoia and misinformation. The Pittsburgh shooter was responding to Trump's immigration rhetoric and fearmongering, even if he didn't wear a stupid red cap.

With crazy people the urge to act out, or shoot someone in this case, comes first and afterwards, the excuse or so-called justification.
"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one."

― Charles MacKay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

SimonNZ

As I was saying...

GOP congressman sympathizes with Austrian far-right after Auschwitz visit

"Rep. Steve King of Iowa met with members of a far-right Austrian political party and gave a sympathetic interview to a related publication after participating on a trip to Poland sponsored by a Holocaust education group.

King, a Republican, met with members of the Freedom Party, or FPOe, in Austria following an August trip that included visits to the Auschwitz-Birkenau death camp and meetings with Holocaust survivors, The Washington Post reported Thursday.

The Freedom Party was founded by a former Nazi SS officer and is known for its anti-immigrant views.

King, who is seeking a ninth term in next month's midterm elections, gave the interview to Unzensuriert, a publication associated with the far-right party, in which he complained about illegal immigration to the United States, said that Islam and Western liberalism "have teamed up against Western civilization" and criticized George Soros, a Jewish billionaire who is frequently the target of anti-Semitic conspiracy theories.

"We might not have had Obamacare without Soros," King said. "His money floats in in such a way you can't see the flow, but if you trace it back you can connect it to his foundation."

Karl Henning

Quote"Tuesday's schedule featured nine hours of "Executive Time" and just over three hours of work. Other days on the schedule were only slightly busier. Trump had no meetings or commitments before 11 a.m. on any day of the week. Every day included long blocks of unstructured screen time."

Be fair:  if he didn't sit with his eyes glued to Fox & Friends, he wouldn't know what to think . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote"We might not have had Obamacare without Soros," King said. "His money floats in in such a way you can't see the flow, but if you trace it back you can connect it to his foundation."

And these are the people who have ZERO CURIOSITY about El Tupé's tax returns:  genius!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

zamyrabyrd

Quote from: SimonNZ on October 29, 2018, 06:54:25 AM
Trump a 'purveyor of hate speech' and not welcome in Pittsburgh, says former synagogue leader

"A former president of the synagogue in Pittsburgh where 11 people were murdered on Saturday has said Donald Trump would not be welcome in the city and labelled the president a "purveyor of hate speech".

Lynette Lederman, of the Tree of Life Synagogue in Squirrel Hill, told CNN on Monday she would rely on local political leadership in the aftermath of the mass shooting and did not want the president to visit the city.


All due respect, lady:

With 50.2 percent of the vote in the Census-defined metropolitan statistical area, Pittsburgh was the second-largest metro area where Trump won a majority, topped only by Dallas-Fort Worth. Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater and Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale are the only larger metros where he garnered plurality of the vote.

Honestly, how is defending the borders from mob rule hate speech or policy? Again, Trump's daughter converted to marry a Jew and he supports the State of Israel, even moving the Embassy to Jerusalem. What rot!
"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one."

― Charles MacKay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

Karl Henning

Why President Toadstool cannot tone it down

By Jennifer Rubin
October 29 at 11:30 AM

President Trump got to the Oval Office by fanning the fears of older, working-class white men and betting traditional conservatives would forgive him for anything if he gave them a tax cut and Supreme Court judges. As to the latter, every day a fleet of "respectable" conservative commentators and lawmakers prove Trump right by dubbing him a success and ignoring his attacks on democratic institutions, his personal corruption and his abject racism. As for the former, Trump is not about to stop whipping up fear of immigrants, spewing conspiracy theories, deliberately misstating facts or cozying up to tyrants.

His refusal to give up the divisiveness, some might say, is simply evidence that you cannot teach an old dog new tricks. That may be, but the problem is deeper. If Trump did not divide, lie, boast and incite, what would he possibly have to talk about?



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Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

BasilValentine

Quote from: zamyrabyrd on October 29, 2018, 07:09:24 AM
All due respect, lady:

With 50.2 percent of the vote in the Census-defined metropolitan statistical area, Pittsburgh was the second-largest metro area where Trump won a majority, topped only by Dallas-Fort Worth. Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater and Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale are the only larger metros where he garnered plurality of the vote.

Honestly, how is defending the borders from mob rule hate speech or policy? Again, Trump's daughter converted to marry a Jew and he supports the State of Israel, even moving the Embassy to Jerusalem. What rot!

The Metropolitan statistical area (::)) is not Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh, the city, where I was born and raised, opposed Trump by a large margin. No one wants him there. He is supported by white supremicists and is an apologist for neo-Nazis. Nothing could be more antithetical to the community upon which he seeks to impose himself in another vain attempt to look presidential. He should crawl into a hole and shut up before his fear-mongering and hate speech incites more violence.

The borders don't need defending. There is no threat.

Who his daughter married has nothing to do with his feelings about Jews. His acceptance of her husband likely has more to do with the fact that, like Trump himself, Jared is the son of a criminal real estate developer from New York who makes criminally stupid real estate deals. The only reason Jared's family isn't bankrupt — yet — is because the Saudi's covered their last payment on the worst real estate deal in recent memory, 666 Fifth Avenue, which Jared bought at a ridiculously inflated price at the height of the boom and just before the collapse.

Ghost of Baron Scarpia

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Quote from: BasilValentine on November 18, 1974, 10:51:07 PMWho his daughter married has nothing to do with his feelings about Jews. His acceptance of her husband likely has more to do with the fact that, like Trump himself, Jared is the son of a criminal real estate developer from New York who makes criminally stupid real estate deals. The only reason Jared's family isn't bankrupt — yet — is because the Saudi's covered their last payment on the worst real estate deal in recent memory, 666 Fifth Avenue, which Jared bought at a ridiculously inflated price at the height of the boom and just before the collapse.

Quite a coincidence that Trump seemed so anxious to give credence to the string of lies that the Saudi's told to try to cover up the brutal murder of a journalist in the Saudi Consulate in Turkey. You'd think that the Saudi's have Trump in their pocket.  ::)

zamyrabyrd

Quote from: BasilValentine on October 29, 2018, 08:31:19 AM

The borders don't need defending. There is no threat.


Sez you - no drugs, no criminals, no rape gangs, no human trafficking, no ISIS infiltration - wow, just wow!
"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one."

― Charles MacKay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

Karl Henning

Bigotry is defined as "obstinate or intolerant devotion to one's own opinions and prejudices."

Trump's apologists say "both sides" contribute to an atmosphere of hate, bigotry, divisiveness and meanness. Unlike Trump, however, Democratic leaders do not refer to illegal immigrants as "animals" or call them "some of the worst criminals on Earth" or say immigrants "infest" our country.  Unlike Trump, Democratic leaders do not describe predominately nonwhite countries as "shithole countries." Unlike Trump, Democratic leaders did not invent a crime wave and blame immigrants for it. Unlike Trump, Democratic officials are not out mocking a disabled reporter or a sexual assault victim. Unlike Trump, Democratic politicians have not falsely accused a Jewish billionaire (a frequent target of anti-Semites) of paying women to protest and impersonate sexual assault victims. Unlike Trump, Democratic officials do not lead chants to lock up Republican opponents based on, well, nothing at all. Unlike Trump, Democratic officials these days are not demeaning the judiciary by referring to "so-called courts" or inventing conspiracy theories to defame the FBI.

Trump's notion that any criticism of him (no matter how provable) is equivalent to his baseless insults, expressions of bigotry and praise for violence is the sort of moral equivalence that conservatives used to deplore. If Trump's supporters love him so much and believe he's such a gem they should embrace his unique rhetoric. "Whataboutism" isn't a defense, and what's more, it isn't even true.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

BasilValentine

Quote from: zamyrabyrd on October 29, 2018, 08:50:04 AM
Sez you - no drugs, no criminals, no rape gangs, no human trafficking, no ISIS infiltration - wow, just wow!

None of that is a threat to national security and none of it warrants fear mongering. The reason there is a caravan in the first place is to protect the members from traffickers, criminals and drug gangs. The only member of a rape gang I know by name is Brett Kavanaugh.

Karl Henning

His numbers will be out the roof!

Michael Moore releases footage of mail-bomber suspect Cesar Sayoc at Trump rally

By Alex Horton
October 29 at 11:55 AM

Cesar Sayoc stood in the throng of shouting, teeth-gnashing Trump supporters and joined a chant directed at news cameras.

"CNN SUCKS! CNN SUCKS!" they screamed. "Tell the truth! Tell the truth!"

Sayoc had seemingly found his tribe at the Trump rally in February 2017.

In previously unreleased video captured by the crew of filmmaker Michael Moore, the sleeveless shirt Sayoc wore that day in Melbourne, Fla., featured a collage of pro-Trump imagery, and his sign, like his chants, derided CNN — perhaps the most frequent target of Trump's anti-media rage.

In that way, Sayoc — now known as the mail-bomb suspect — had already transformed into the human avatar of his van's rolling fever dream of political paranoia. The image emblazoned on his shirt could also be seen on a large decal on the white van found during Sayoc's arrest, near other images of prominent Democrats, including Moore.

Also on that van: a large decal that read "CNN sucks."

Sayoc, 56, has been charged with sending more than a dozen potential bombs to various Democratic and media figures who have been critical of Trump. He is expected to appear in federal court on Monday. Hours before Sayoc's scheduled court appearance in Miami, CNN said that authorities had intercepted another suspicious package addressed to the news organization at a post office in Atlanta.


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Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

zamyrabyrd

Quote from: BasilValentine on October 29, 2018, 09:10:54 AM
None of that is a threat to national security and none of it warrants fear mongering. The reason there is a caravan in the first place is to protect the members from traffickers, criminals and drug gangs. The only member of a rape gang I know by name is Brett Kavanaugh.

Doesn't deserve an answer.
"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one."

― Charles MacKay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

Ghost of Baron Scarpia

Quote from: zamyrabyrd on October 29, 2018, 09:59:28 AM
Doesn't deserve an answer.

Except, possibly, for the riff about Kavanaugh at the end, it is absolutely true. There is nothing "illegal" about the "caravan." It is a group of refugees that is traveling to the US boarder to apply for asylum. It is their right to do so under international law, which has long been recognized by the United States. The United States is obligated to evaluate the claims of all asylum seekers and grant or deny asylum based on the findings. That the Trump administration has subject asylum seekers to horrific abuse, such as separating children from their parents and in some cases loosing track of the children while deporting the parents, is a national disgrace.

BasilValentine


Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot