Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)

[drogulus]

Please let us know what could Putin do to Finland, today, tomorrow or in any foreseeable future.

   You go first. How about a little burden sharing from the small countries?

Alternatively, he could get any number of dishonest Finnish politicians on his payroll and set up a pro-Russian, anti-EU party. I have very limited knowledge on Finland's politics but I am not aware of any siuch party. Maybe 71dB can shed some light on the issue.

    No, it's unforseeable. There is no light, or merit. It's amusement all the way down.

   

[71 dB]

This cuts both ways --- apparently you want the US troops to remain forever in Syria in order to protect the Kurds from the Turks, based exactly on a moral argument.

International  politics and moral are mutually exclusive, UN-style, or bleeding heart, claptrap notwithstanding.

The US hardly practises it's foreign politics based on what I want. I can want things that are unrealistic (no war ever again anywhere).

Again leaving wasn't the problem. The style was the problem. There's 3 options for people to see this:

1) Agree with Trump
2) Oppose Trump from the left
3) Oppose Trump from the right

I am doing 2). That's saying: Bring troops home, but do it wisely causing as little damage as possible.

The establishment is doing 3). That's saying: Be in Syria forever, because that's good for the military industry complex.

[Florestan]

   You go first. How about a little burden sharing from the small countries?

I am no intellectual. Please translate it into plain English.

[71 dB]

Derp.

Whenever the facts don't care about your feelings you go "Derp." It's like watching Pavlov's dog. 

[Todd]

Whenever the facts don't care about your feelings you go "Derp." It's like watching Pavlov's dog. 

I guess ignorance about psychology can be added to your list of shortcomings.

I am no intellectual. Please translate it into plain English.

Google is working on a drogulus gibberish to English translator as we type.  It has been under development for several years.  It is proving to be an impossible nut to crack.

[Florestan]

The US hardly practises it's foreign politics based on what I want. I can want things that are unrealistic (no war ever again anywhere).

Finland herself hardly practises its foreign politics based on what you want. So what?

There's 3 options for people to see this:

1) Agree with Trump
2) Oppose Trump from the left
3) Oppose Trump from the right

There's more than that.

[71 dB]

Alternatively, he could get any number of dishonest Finnish politicians on his payroll and set up a pro-Russian, anti-EU party. I have very limited knowledge on Finland's politics but I am not aware of any siuch party. Maybe 71dB can shed some light on the issue.

What the hell are you talking about? Of course there are dishonest Finnish politicians. Power corrupts.

The True Finns are a bit "anti-EU". As for pro-Russia, I am not aware of that...

[71 dB]

Finland herself hardly practises its foreign politics based on what you want. So what?

I vote in Finnish elections so in that sense I have a little little bit say on that. That's how it's supposed to be, isn't it?
Unlike in the US, in Finland the politicians are not completely bought by the military industry and that's why what
regular people want has some effect on the politics.

There's more than that.

You can extent my list if you want.

[Florestan]

I vote in Finnish elections so in that sense I have a little little bit say on that. That's how it's supposed to be, isn't it?

Your little bit of saying is important only insofar your vote happens to be for the party, or the person, who will be in charge of governing Finland for the next 4 years following your vote --- and even so, you can't rule out the possibility that the Finnish govenment (for which you supposedly voted), considering their situation in the international context, does something which completely contradicts your own views on how Finland's foreign policy should be conducted.

Unlike in the US, in Finland the politicians are not completely bought by the military industry and that's why what
regular people want has some effect on the politics.

See above.

[71 dB]

Your little bit of saying is important only insofar your vote happens to be for the party, or the person, who will be in charge of governing Finland for the next 4 years following your vote --- and even so, you can't rule out the possibility that the Finnish govenment (for which you supposedly voted), considering their situation in the international context, does something which completely contradicts your own views on how Finland's foreign policy should be conducted.

See above.

I am not the dictator of Finland so how much power should I have. I believe I have more power than regular Americans have on American politics, because Finland is a pretty well functioning democracy while the US is an oligarcy.

Internet is a funny place. No matter what you post, there will always someone posting something against you. I can't help who I am and where I live. I have shortcomings as Todd says. Just trying to live my life, but people online have a lot of problem with that... ..now even the fact I can't dictate Finland's policies is a problem! Wow.

[Todd]

I am not the dictator of Finland so how much power should I have. I believe I have more power than regular Americans have on American politics, because Finland is a pretty well functioning democracy while the US is an oligarcy.

So much for the feted Finnish education system.

[Florestan]

So much for the feted Finnish education system.

I have said it before and I reiterate it now: if 71dB is a typical product of the Finnish educational system, then the latter is hugely overrrated.

[71 dB]

So much for the feted Finnish education system.

So now even Finnish education system has entered the discussion. What next? Sauna? Fiskars scissors? Joulupukki (santa-claus)?

[Todd]

What next? Sauna? Fiskars scissors? Joulupukki (santa-claus)?

So much for the feted Finnish education system.

[Florestan]

So now even Finnish education system has entered the discussion. What next? Sauna? Fiskars scissors? Joulupukki (santa-claus)?

How about alcoholism and suicide rates within what it's supposed to be the happiest nation on earth?

[71 dB]

I have said it before and I reiterate it now: if 71dB is a typical product of the Finnish educational system, then the latter is hugely overrrated.

Or perhaps I am just too smart for you thanks to Finnish educational system?

[Florestan]

Or perhaps I am just too smart for you thanks to Finnish educational system?

No.

[71 dB]

How about alcoholism and suicide rates within what it's supposed to be the happiest nation on earth?

Yep. Romania is the true Paradise on Earth. Attack me and Finland all yoy want and have fun. What do I care?

[71 dB]

No.

Whatever. I don't care.

[Todd]

Or perhaps I am just too smart for you thanks to Finnish educational system?

That's the clincher: the Finnish education system is the shit.

What do I care?

You obviously care enough to respond.