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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #19060 on: May 22, 2020, 06:27:37 PM »
Hard to imagine you are a “conservative libertarian.” More like an establishment big government loving liberal.  :-[

The list of failures by those people should frighten you, JBS, but apparently they meet your criteria for conservative libertarianism. ::)

Well, take Trump, imagine someone with all the opinions and character traits diametrically opposite those Trump has, and you would have the perfect conservative/libertarian.


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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #19061 on: May 22, 2020, 06:38:13 PM »
Well, take Trump, imagine someone with all the opinions and character traits diametrically opposite those Trump has, and you would have the perfect conservative/libertarian.
Deliberately vague and meaningless.

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« Reply #19062 on: May 22, 2020, 10:53:15 PM »
The list of failures by those people should frighten you, JBS, but apparently they meet your criteria for conservative libertarianism. ::)

Trump's failure to respond timely and adequately to corona, however, doesn't seem to bother you one bit, even though tens of thousands of deaths could have been prevented.
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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #19064 on: May 23, 2020, 04:21:36 AM »
You really are something else, holding onto nonsense like that. Remember with Watergate there was an actual crime committed and that was the basis of investigation. Regarding Trump it’s nothing more than rumors, allegations and smears. I don’t think he is a saint, either, but tell me who is at that level. Ron Paul maybe.

Trump violated the Impoundment Control Act. That's a crime. Look it up.

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« Reply #19065 on: May 23, 2020, 04:25:16 AM »
Trump violated the Impoundment Control Act. That's a crime. Look it up.


Dems should impeach then!
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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #19066 on: May 23, 2020, 04:59:30 AM »
Trump's failure to respond timely and adequately to corona, however, doesn't seem to bother you one bit, even though tens of thousands of deaths could have been prevented.
No one else has died outside of America. Clearly Trump is responsible and MUST be impeached!  >:(
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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #19067 on: May 23, 2020, 05:31:43 AM »
No one else has died outside of America.

yeah, what about that?

In fact people are mortal anyway, so what's the difference if Trump's / Javanka's response was so chaotic many more people died?

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« Reply #19068 on: May 23, 2020, 05:43:48 AM »
In fact people are mortal anyway, so what's the difference if Trump's / Javanka's response was so chaotic many more people died?


Funny, people on this forum still ascribe powers to the president that he does not have.  Just like the president himself.
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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #19069 on: May 23, 2020, 06:02:30 AM »

Funny, people on this forum still ascribe powers to the president that he does not have.  Just like the president himself.
Funny, for once we agree on something in this thread.

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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #19070 on: May 23, 2020, 06:17:54 AM »

Good day, Andrei.

Intrigued by what Sra. Verdú has to do with this...  ???
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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #19071 on: May 23, 2020, 09:12:40 AM »

Dems should impeach then!

I'm surprised they didn't think of that!

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« Reply #19072 on: May 23, 2020, 09:23:59 AM »
I'm surprised they didn't think of that!


Dems are prone to floundering, flailing, and failing when it counts, so it's probably best if they don't go for impeachment.

Hey, wait . . .
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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #19073 on: May 23, 2020, 09:47:34 AM »
yeah, what about that?

In fact people are mortal anyway, so what's the difference if Trump's / Javanka's response was so chaotic many more people died?

The Dem response was to call Trump’s actions racist and xenophobic. So if they had been in power, even more would have died in order not to have offended anyone. 
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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #19074 on: May 23, 2020, 11:58:40 AM »
The Dem response was to call Trump’s actions racist and xenophobic. So if they had been in power, even more would have died in order not to have offended anyone.

You are aware that Trump's travel ban was put in place only after 40,000 potentially infected travelers from China had already been admitted to the country, right? The ban was pointless and ineffective by that time, and whether it was motivated by Trump's racism and xenophobia or just his desire to appeal to a gullible base who are impressed by cheap political theater isn't really important.

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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #19075 on: May 23, 2020, 12:04:02 PM »
The Dem response was to call Trump’s actions racist and xenophobic. So if they had been in power, even more would have died in order not to have offended anyone.

Clutching at hypothetical straws.

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« Reply #19076 on: May 23, 2020, 12:50:25 PM »
The Dem response was to call Trump’s actions racist and xenophobic. So if they had been in power, even more would have died in order not to have offended anyone.

There's a lot of information available now about the Obama administration's preparation for both Ebola and Sars potentially becoming global pandemics. It was highly proactive, science-based and followed expert advice. So we don't need to ponder your "hypothetical".

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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #19077 on: May 23, 2020, 01:56:51 PM »
As with Trump, so with the Trumpkins: the noise IS the message.
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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #19078 on: May 23, 2020, 02:33:38 PM »
You are aware that Trump's travel ban was put in place only after 40,000 potentially infected travelers from China had already been admitted to the country, right? The ban was pointless and ineffective by that time, and whether it was motivated by Trump's racism and xenophobia or just his desire to appeal to a gullible base who are impressed by cheap political theater isn't really important.
Right. So I’m sure letting another 40,000 or 400,000 in wouldn’t have made it worse. Trump is damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t with you folks here. 

Btw, Biden was against the ban before he was for the ban so you might want to rethink your condemnation of it.
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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #19079 on: May 23, 2020, 02:38:39 PM »
Clutching at hypothetical straws.
I know, I know.

Trump bad, Trump racist, Trump corrupt, Trump Russia, Trump coverup, Trump incompetent, Trump senile, Trump evil, Trump fascist.

Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump! 
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