Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)

[Turner]

German Die Welt suggests a tank type M1 Abrams for each American, to solve the current problem with gun violence.
https://www.welt.de/satire/article170370643/Als-Schutz-vor-Waffengewalt-Panzer-fuer-jeden-Amerikaner.html
They are being ironical, of course.

"Republican National Committee just got caught paying hush money to Trump's former bodyguard" (Keith Schiller, who testified in Russia hearings about Moscow visit)
http://washingtonpress.com/2018/02/21/rnc-just-got-caught-paying-hush-money-trumps-former-bodyguard/

[Karl Henning]

Yep, but even the majority of NRA members are for rational gun restrictions because they don't want their children slaughtered in schools.

That's where the Congressional payola adds leverage.

[Marc]

I think I'm losing my interest in the 'subject' Trump.

But what does it say about the state of a nation when the political leader can seriously suggest "let's train and arm the school teachers, that'll make our country more safe"?

[Karl Henning]

ROFLMAO

Some conservative media figures complain after Twitter suspends thousands of suspected bot accounts

Pro-Trump host Bill Mitchell, white nationalist Richard Spencer and others were unhappy about losing a small portion of their followers. Other conservative accounts were suspended pending verification that they are run by people.

[Florestan]

But what does it say about the state of a nation when the political leader can seriously suggest "let's train and arm the school teachers, that'll make our country more safe"?

The "Wild Bill Hickock" High School in Gun Point County proudly presents their teachers:

[BasilValentine]

NRA spent at least $ 30 million on the Trump campaign
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-trump-russia-nra-connection-heres-what-you-need-to-know-w515615

I read the McClatchy article on which this ^ ^ ^ is based a couple of weeks ago. If the Kremlin did in fact pump many millions of dollars of dark money to the Trump campaign through the NRA via longstanding member and Putin pal Alexander Torshin, let's hope the FBI gets to the bottom of it. I like that the NRA is classified as a social welfare group.

[BasilValentine]

The "Wild Bill Hickock" High School in Gun Point County proudly presents their teachers:

I'm sorry! Your Ph.D. in mathematics and teaching experience are impressive, but you are going to have to improve your accuracy with a handgun before this district can consider your application.

[André]

I'm sorry! Your Ph.D. in mathematics and teaching experience are impressive, but you are going to have to improve your accuracy with a handgun before this district can consider your application.

Not as farfetched as it sounds. How would parents react if this teacher had a gun in his desk drawer ?

[Florestan]

How would parents react if this teacher had a gun in his desk drawer ?

Probably by arming their children in turn. 

The whole thing is insane.

[Karl Henning]

No Child Left Unarmed!

[Florestan]

No Child Left Unarmed!

Meet some of the visionaries who are slowly but steadily being acknowledged as the founding fathers of the American school safety system:

[Karl Henning]

Fox News host Greg Gutfeld just espoused a theory as to what America should do to curb the plague of school shootings.

Gutfeld suggested during The Five today (15 Feb) that children should be trained in hand-to-hand combat so that they could fend off a would-be attacker.

The utterance occurred during a discussion with Juan Williams and Kimberly Guilfoyle on the Florida shooting and what may have led to the tragedy, including Williams singling out video games, before Gutfeld chimed in.

"Society is changing. You have to teach them how to respond," he said, before referring to kids as "soft targets."

"You have to be rational about it, which means hardening soft targets through drills and training," he said. "Learning combat. Learning hand-to-hand combat. This works, by the way, for terror, if there's a terror attack, and it works for school shootings."

Gutfeld asked "How do you improve upon this rationally? Well, you train them. That simple."

Williams responded, "You'd have to train a kid to go to school? That's kind of sad to me."

The former Red Eye host exclaimed "self-defense classes are the best thing for a kid."

[milk]

Fox News host Greg Gutfeld just espoused a theory as to what America should do to curb the plague of school shootings.

Gutfeld suggested during The Five today (15 Feb) that children should be trained in hand-to-hand combat so that they could fend off a would-be attacker.

The utterance occurred during a discussion with Juan Williams and Kimberly Guilfoyle on the Florida shooting and what may have led to the tragedy, including Williams singling out video games, before Gutfeld chimed in.

"Society is changing. You have to teach them how to respond," he said, before referring to kids as "soft targets."

"You have to be rational about it, which means hardening soft targets through drills and training," he said. "Learning combat. Learning hand-to-hand combat. This works, by the way, for terror, if there's a terror attack, and it works for school shootings."

Gutfeld asked "How do you improve upon this rationally? Well, you train them. That simple."

Williams responded, "You'd have to train a kid to go to school? That's kind of sad to me."

The former Red Eye host exclaimed "self-defense classes are the best thing for a kid."

OMG. I'm speechless in the reading of it. Lock these people up and force them to listen to this conversation over and over again. Juan Williams! That guy needs an intervention and a debriefing. 

[Karl Henning]

I actually read that as Williams sounding like the Voice of Reason . . . .

[milk]

I actually read that as Williams sounding like the Voice of Reason . . . .

perhaps. The video game thing though...haven't we been through all this before with song lyrics? Anyway, the whole thing about arming teachers is pretty pathetic and sad. 

[Karl Henning]

President Clueless

'ATTACKS WOULD END!': Trump expresses support for raising assault rifle age to 21, presses case for arming some teachers

[Karl Henning]

perhaps. The video game thing though...haven't we been through all this before with song lyrics? Anyway, the whole thing about arming teachers is pretty pathetic and sad. 

Aye, the twin delusions of "the solution is more guns!" and "a good guy with a gun."

[Karl Henning]

[...] If this student had shown up with a weapon determined to harm us, what would my responsibility have been? Talk? De-escalate? Beg? Run? It seems clear that under any policy that arms teachers, it would be my responsibility to shoot my student dead. This creates more problems than it solves. If I miss or fail to fire, and he murders the other students, can their loved ones sue me? What if my shot ricochets and hurts or kills one of them? What if his gun turns out to be a walkie-talkie, a misidentification that happened outside my campus's library last year, and I shoot my student dead for possession of an unusual electronic device? In these scenarios, some more outlandish than others, teachers become soldiers, and schools become liable when students aren't protected in such circumstances as a shooting.

But legal liability isn't the reason I will never carry a firearm into a classroom. If it's my responsibility to shoot someone to protect 25 others, I will have been drafted unwillingly into an ideological army to protect the rights of some civilians to own and operate military-style weapons. And I will not be conscripted.

[Florestan]

"a good guy with a gun."

Works pretty well in westerns, though. 

[Karl Henning]

Works pretty well in westerns, though. 

Hence the power of the myth.