What Opera Are You Listening to Now?

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Coming to the end and I've really enjoyed this Ring. Brilioth may be no Melchior, but we'd be lucky to hear someone half so good today and I really like Dernesch's Brünnhilde. The rest of the cast is hardly to be sneezed at and the orchestral playing under Karajan is superb. I guess I'm one of the few people who prefers this set to the Solti.
 
\"A beautiful voice is not enough.\" Maria Callas

Papy Oli

Verdi - Un ballo in maschera
Act I


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Tsaraslondon

Quote from: Papy Oli on December 02, 2022, 05:48:05 AMVerdi - Un ballo in maschera
Act I




One of three new Warner digital issues. Do you know if this is a remastering or the same one as the last Warner set from 2014?
\"A beautiful voice is not enough.\" Maria Callas

Papy Oli

Quote from: Tsaraslondon on December 02, 2022, 08:09:10 AMOne of three new Warner digital issues. Do you know if this is a remastering or the same one as the last Warner set from 2014?

I don't know Tsara. Idagio has both versions, I'll stream both more closely to see if there's any major sound differences. Sadly, neither Idagio nor Qobuz have the booklets available for those three latest "black" releases so no info to refer to either.
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Quote from: Tsaraslondon on December 02, 2022, 08:09:10 AMOne of three new Warner digital issues. Do you know if this is a remastering or the same one as the last Warner set from 2014?

I think Warner would make a big deal about a new "new re-master", so I would assume it's the same one.

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Tsaraslondon

This is from Warner's official Callas page on Facebook.

OnThisDay 99 years ago, Maria Callas was born 🌟 She would become one of the greatest icons of the classical music world, awing and enchanting listeners around the world – from the stage and the studio – with her unparalleled voice.
In 2023, we will honor the centenary of her birth, with exclusive experiences, exhibitions, concerts, and events around the world.


We shall see.
\"A beautiful voice is not enough.\" Maria Callas

Tsaraslondon



Dernesch, Ludwig, Kollo, Braun, Sotin, Vienna State Opera Chorus, Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra, Solti.

My one and only opera recording conducted by Solti. A superb performance of the Paris version.
 
\"A beautiful voice is not enough.\" Maria Callas

Wendell_E

Quote from: Tsaraslondon on November 19, 2022, 01:55:48 PM

I've never heard Karajan's DG Ring, so I started it yesterday (via Amazon Music). Liked it a lot.
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Papy Oli

Quote from: Tsaraslondon on December 02, 2022, 08:09:10 AMOne of three new Warner digital issues. Do you know if this is a remastering or the same one as the last Warner set from 2014?

I have sampled tracks of the two versions back to back in FLAC on Idagio and I don't hear any striking differences at all. If anything, the 2014 version sounds (at times) a tiny bit closer and immediate, the newest version slightly more distant. Nothing else of note.

Nice black cover though  ;D
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knight66

Quote from: Tsaraslondon on November 30, 2022, 01:42:46 AM

Coming to the end and I've really enjoyed this Ring. Brilioth may be no Melchior, but we'd be lucky to hear someone half so good today and I really like Dernesch's Brünnhilde. The rest of the cast is hardly to be sneezed at and the orchestral playing under Karajan is superb. I guess I'm one of the few people who prefers this set to the Solti.
 

I am with you here. I have had both Solti and Karajan for decades and of the two I prefer Karajan. I especially like the luminosity of sound he brings out of the orchestra. I enjoy Dernesch's very feminine sound and as you say, the whole cast is worth hearing. I imagine some will feel Janowitz is too light for Gutrune, but I am addicted to the sound of her voice. I disagree that Karajan sacrifices drama to beauty. I find it a very satisfying listen.

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Quote from: Tsaraslondon on December 03, 2022, 12:23:29 AM

Dernesch, Ludwig, Kollo, Braun, Sotin, Vienna State Opera Chorus, Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra, Solti.

My one and only opera recording conducted by Solti. A superb performance of the Paris version.
 

This recording, which I bought when it was first issued, convinced me that the Paris Version was THE version to listen to and I have not heard a version that I prefer to this one.

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Tsaraslondon

Quote from: knight66 on December 03, 2022, 11:26:41 PMI am with you here. I have had both Solti and Karajan for decades and of the two I prefer Karajan. I especially like the luminosity of sound he brings out of the orchestra. I enjoy Dernesch's very feminine sound and as you say, the whole cast is worth hearing. I imagine some will feel Janowitz is too light for Gutrune, but I am addicted to the sound of her voice. I disagree that Karajan sacrifices drama to beauty. I find it a very satisfying listen.

Knight

 

One critic described Solti's approach as "an orgasm in every bar and I know what he meant.
\"A beautiful voice is not enough.\" Maria Callas

Wendell_E

#3412
Continuing Karajan's DG Ring with Die Walküre.

Edit: Siegfried on Monday, the 5th.
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Papy Oli

Dipping a tentative toe in Der Ring.

Having had a quick glance in the early pages of the Ring thread here, I have bookmarked some complete Rings on Idagio (beside the Solti which I have owned for years, unheard - complete Wagner operas boxset bought for £36 at the time, a "blind" bargain purchase back for later in my life... i.e. now  ;D ).

Making an arbitrary sampling from the Rheingold Prelude up to the first interlude (Scene 1 basically).

For today :

Knappertsbusch 1956



Solti



Two promising starts.

In between, I had started Janowski but I didn't like the voices so I aborted that version quickly.



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Another Rheingold Act I Scene I - Keilberth 1953

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Papy Oli

#3416
The sound of the Keilberth will be a problem. Shelving that one for now.

Trying another oldie - Krauss 1953

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the Penultimate Scene 1 - Böhm

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Lisztianwagner

Quote from: Papy Oli on December 07, 2022, 03:39:50 AMAnother one - Barenboim


Barenboim's recording of the Ring was my introduction to Wagner's music, it's a wonderful set in my opinion, especially about Siegfried and Götterdämmerung.
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