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Offline Irons

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Re: Brexit Negotiations.
« Reply #1360 on: September 15, 2020, 06:57:22 AM »




The cause of that is IMO due to a democratic vote that was based on wrong assumptions. Which resulted in a political process with a strategy that was out of touch with reality. Just look at how May struggled to retain all the benefits of being part of the internal market, while wanting to leave it. I am frankly surprised about the lack of knowledge in the UK among public and politicans alike about the economic and political mechanisms of the EU.



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You talk a lot of sense but I read the above with open-mouthed astonishment. Who are you, Barnier or whoever to question the ability of the British public to understand an issue as well as you can? Sanctimonious at it's most blatant. I'm done! Until the next twist in the torturous path called Brexit.  :o
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Re: Brexit Negotiations.
« Reply #1361 on: September 15, 2020, 07:23:48 AM »
You talk a lot of sense but I read the above with open-mouthed astonishment. Who are you, Barnier or whoever to question the ability of the British public to understand an issue as well as you can? Sanctimonious at it's most blatant. I'm done! Until the next twist in the torturous path called Brexit.  :o

If you're right then generally speaking UK voters and polictians knew exactly what they were getting into (or out of).

Nothing I've read in the run up to the referendum and thereafter indicates anything that comes close. On the contray.
Yes, there are actually a lot of superb experts on the EU in the UK, but they were conveniently ignored and dismissed as "saboteurs" and "friends of the EU". Along with the House of Lords, the Supreme Court and senior diplomats and other senior civil servants. Who needs experts?

Anyway, it is all water under the bridge - our little post mortem of Brexit.
Brexit will soon be over, the economic and political fall out will follow.

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Re: Brexit Negotiations.
« Reply #1362 on: September 15, 2020, 01:04:05 PM »
We most certainly have not.

A little bit of Google and Wikipedia will tell you that you certainly have, and the fact that you don’t even know it (and in fact vehemently DENY it) speaks volumes as to how this process has been handled.

There’s still talk about whether to have “no deal Brexit” at the end of the year, when you’ve already had the Brexit part, and the question is whether you’ll have a deal with the EU or tear up the deal you already have.
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« Reply #1363 on: September 17, 2020, 12:00:06 AM »
The "EU" which the UK has not left, according to some Britons, probably is not the EU as a real thing, but rather a state of mind, a frustrating thing in which you have to cooperate and communicate instead of just blissfully toss one's toys against the wall.

The EU is, in short, being a responsible adult, and that is what Brexit appears to be about.

Having one's cake and eat it too.

Master of one's domain.

Without consequences, obviously.

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Re: Brexit Negotiations.
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« Reply #1365 on: September 20, 2020, 04:39:55 AM »
Wow, things are serious.  Mrs George Clooney did something: Brexit: Amal Clooney quits government envoy role over law break plan
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« Reply #1366 on: September 20, 2020, 06:34:12 AM »
You do realise she was a prominent international lawyer before she was ever a Clooney? Treating her as nothing more than an appendage to her husband is rank sexism.
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« Reply #1367 on: September 20, 2020, 06:54:54 AM »
Good stuff.
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« Reply #1368 on: September 20, 2020, 07:00:16 AM »
She reminds me of Huma, the former Mrs Weiner.
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« Reply #1369 on: September 20, 2020, 10:50:10 AM »
You do realise she was a prominent international lawyer before she was ever a Clooney? Treating her as nothing more than an appendage to her husband is rank sexism.

What do you expect from a troll?

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Re: Brexit Negotiations.
« Reply #1370 on: September 20, 2020, 01:38:24 PM »
What do you expect from a troll?

Yes, I know. I was already tired and cranky and so I fed it after midnight.
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