Non-Classical Music Listening Thread!

[steve ridgway]

I have almost nothing to offer the World and vice versa.

Just don't confuse the World with the human race .

[drogulus]

    I'm listening to some music from the Rolling Stones, Beach Boys, Cream and the Super Session album with Stills, Kooper and Bloomfield. The files are.dsf played on......WINAMP!!

    I realize a normal person would just DL foobar and the SACD plugin, but that wasn't good enough for me, ohhh nooo.....

[foxandpeng]

"1914" is the name of the death metal band from Lviv, Ukraine.

Decent. Also a Drudkh and Hate Forest fan, amongst others.

[SimonNZ]

I was a big fan of Real World releases 20 or so years ago. Didn't listen for years, and now it sounds fresh again

Yeah, me too. Passion and Passion Sources were two of my most loved and played albums in my late teens. I probably had their first ten years of releases complete.


Now:

Never payed much attention to this song before, but heard and amazing live version in a shop the other day and since have been trying to find which it was.

[Todd]

[Iota]

Never payed much attention to this song before, but heard and amazing live version in a shop the other day and since have been trying to find which it was.

Have you tried the one from David Live?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dqfl-6GPf8&list=PLql5iS_v4447BlhSB6okQVpgddTF6LUKH&index=22

[brewski]

Gotye: Somebody That I Used to Know, with choreography by CDK.

-Bruce

[Henk]

Been listening to these two albums, recent releases. Superb, it has been some time that I really have been enthousiastic about new music (aside from some jazz releases), John Moreland and Kim Gordon came close, but these two top them imo.





Second album is by Marcus King.

I'll keep playing them the coming months.

[Henk]

I am a 2020s hater. I hate what the World has become. This is the first decade in my life when I feel I don't belong to this reality at all (I have always felt I'm living on the wrong planet because of my personality/neurotype, but before this decade I felt I can connect to the World at least in some ways). I have almost nothing to offer the World and vice versa. Almost all the stuff that is good in the World is stuff that existed before. Sunshine on my face still feel nice. Pop music from 2010-12 sounds still cool. Recently I say the movie "Day of the Jackal" from 1973 and it was surprisingly good! This decade don't get credit for those things.

In order to cope with the misery of 2020s I have been listening to certain type of music from 1990-92 that feel nostalgic. I have been buying that kind of music online on CD. This has helped a lot. I now understand why older people live in the past. I was born in 1971. The World has become too "modern" for me. I am not against advancements in technology, but so much good has been destroyed as a side effect. Artificial Intelligent is cool, but the cost will be insane: a lot of people will be unemployed living in poverty while the profits go to ultra rich people. We are losing humanity. We are losing so much. Somehow we are creating a World were most people do nothing but struggle to survive instead of technology creating us ALL a paradise. So, that's why I rather live in the past while acknowledging only the best things of today. So, I listen to music such as this (a side project of Saint Etienne from 1991):

For me it is totally irrelevant if this kind of music is objectively bad or crap for somebody else. This music means surprisingly much to me.

I can emphatize with you, but hold a less pessimistic view. Nostalgia darkens the present. Maybe you should read Nietzsche, who looks far into the future.

[Pohjolas Daughter]

Been listening to these two albums, recent releases. Superb, it has been some time that I really have been enthousiastic about new music (aside from some jazz releases), John Moreland and Kim Gordon came close, but these two top them imo.





Second album is by Marcus King.

I'll keep playing them the coming months.

What's the Knopfler album like?

PD

[Henk]

What's the Knopfler album like?

PD

Typical Knopfler as his other solo albums, but slightly warmer, really achieving perfection.

[AnotherSpin]

[71 dB]

I can emphatize with you, but hold a less pessimistic view. Nostalgia darkens the present. Maybe you should read Nietzsche, who looks far into the future.

For me nostalgia makes the present more tolerable, less dark. We are perhaps going back to the middle ages undoing enlightenment and choosing barbarism over humanism, but at least there was a time when man went to the Moon and humankind had a vision for better future. The future we envisioned decades ago is here, but it sucks for the most part. At least it is a massive disappointment for me. I have previously been ignoring the past too much. I always looked into the future with high hopes. Doing so I have been lost, because the past shaped me and made me what I am. Life has tought me some lessons and now I have much more realistic expectations for the future. Future has stopped looking better than the past. I have even started to fear the future. I doubt Nietzsche, who died in 1900 and knew nothing about the World today, would change my mind.

[Henk]

For me nostalgia makes the present more tolerable, less dark. We are perhaps going back to the middle ages undoing enlightenment and choosing barbarism over humanism, but at least there was a time when man went to the Moon and humankind had a vision for better future. The future we envisioned decades ago is here, but it sucks for the most part. At least it is a massive disappointment for me. I have previously been ignoring the past too much. I always looked into the future with high hopes. Doing so I have been lost, because the past shaped me and made me what I am. Life has tought me some lessons and now I have much more realistic expectations for the future. Future has stopped looking better than the past. I have even started to fear the future. I doubt Nietzsche, who died in 1900 and knew nothing about the World today, would change my mind.

Consider the thoughts of Nietzsche in this aphorism from 'Human, all too human' if you are prepared to read. To me it's very much about these times with a gaze into the (far) future and reassuring, trust-giving. It gets a bit OOT so let's just share our feelings and thoughts without getting into further arguments / discussion.

'107.

Irresponsibility and Innocence.—The complete irresponsibility of man for his actions and his nature is the bitterest drop which he who understands must swallow if he was accustomed to see the patent of nobility of his humanity in responsibility and duty. All his valuations, distinctions, disinclinations, are thereby deprived of value and become false,—his deepest feeling for the sufferer and the hero was based on an error; he may no longer either praise or blame, for it is absurd to praise and blame nature and necessity. In the same way as he loves a fine work of art, but does not praise it, because it can do nothing for itself; in the same way as he regards plants, so must he regard his own actions and those of mankind. He can admire strength, beauty, abundance, in themselves; but must find no merit therein,—the chemical progress and the strife of the elements, the torments of the sick person who thirsts after recovery, are all equally as little merits as those struggles of the soul and states of distress in which we are torn hither and thither by different impulses until we finally decide[Pg 108] for the strongest—as we say (but in reality it is the strongest motive which decides for us). All these motives, however, whatever fine names we may give them, have all grown out of the same root, in which we believe the evil poisons to be situated; between good and evil actions there is no difference of species, but at most of degree. Good actions are sublimated evil ones; evil actions are vulgarised and stupefied good ones. The single longing of the individual for self-gratification (together with the fear of losing it) satisfies itself in all circumstances: man may act as he can, that is as he must, be it in deeds of vanity, revenge, pleasure, usefulness, malice, cunning; be it in deeds of sacrifice, of pity, of knowledge. The degrees of the power of judgment determine whither any one lets himself be drawn through this longing; to every society, to every individual, a scale of possessions is continually present, according to which he determines his actions and judges those of others. But this standard changes constantly; many actions are called evil and are only stupid, because the degree of intelligence which decided for them was very low. In a certain sense, even, all actions are still stupid; for the highest degree of human intelligence which can now be attained will assuredly be yet surpassed, and then, in a retrospect, all our actions and judgments will appear as limited and hasty as the actions and judgments of primitive wild peoples now appear limited and hasty to us. To recognise all this may be deeply painful, but consolation comes after; such pains are the pangs of birth. The[Pg 109] butterfly wants to break through its chrysalis: it rends and tears it, and is then blinded and confused by the unaccustomed light, the kingdom of liberty. In such people as are capable of such sadness—and how few are!—the first experiment made is to see whether mankind can change itself from a moral into a wise mankind. The sun of a new gospel throws its rays upon the highest point in the soul of each single individual, then the mists gather thicker than ever, and the brightest light and the dreariest shadow lie side by side. Everything is necessity—so says the new knowledge, and this knowledge itself is necessity. Everything is innocence, and knowledge is the road to insight into this innocence. Are pleasure, egoism, vanity necessary for the production of the moral phenomena and their highest result, the sense for truth and justice in knowledge; were error and the confusion of the imagination the only means through which mankind could raise itself gradually to this degree of self-enlightenment and self-liberation—who would dare to undervalue these means? Who would dare to be sad if he perceived the goal to which those roads led? Everything in the domain of morality has evolved, is changeable, unstable, everything is dissolved, it is true; but everything is also streaming towards one goal. Even if the inherited habit of erroneous valuation, love and hatred, continue to reign in us, yet under the influence of growing knowledge it will become weaker; a new habit, that of comprehension, of not loving, not hating, of overlooking, is gradually implanting itself in us upon[Pg 110] the same ground, and in thousands of years will perhaps be powerful enough to give humanity the strength to produce wise, innocent (consciously innocent) men, as it now produces unwise, guilt-conscious men,—that is the necessary preliminary step, not its opposite.'

[SimonNZ]

Jessica Pratt - Here In The Pitch (2024)

[steve ridgway]

For me nostalgia makes the present more tolerable, less dark. We are perhaps going back to the middle ages undoing enlightenment and choosing barbarism over humanism, but at least there was a time when man went to the Moon and humankind had a vision for better future. The future we envisioned decades ago is here, but it sucks for the most part. At least it is a massive disappointment for me. I have previously been ignoring the past too much. I always looked into the future with high hopes. Doing so I have been lost, because the past shaped me and made me what I am. Life has tought me some lessons and now I have much more realistic expectations for the future. Future has stopped looking better than the past. I have even started to fear the future. I doubt Nietzsche, who died in 1900 and knew nothing about the World today, would change my mind.

Yes, the evolution of the universe has produced many beautiful objects and situations over time, one can choose to focus on things that definitely happened or are available to one in the present rather than the uncertainties of the future.

[71 dB]

I asked ChatGPT for suggestions of similar music to Chyp-Notic. Of the suggestions I don't like Modern Talking, Bad Boys Blue, C.C.Catch, Fancy and Joy (yuk!). Now I am listening to F.R. David on Spotify and I am liking the music. This is decent synth-pop!

There are 3 more suggestions: Savage, Ken Laszlo and Grant Miller after I am done with F.R. David...

[steve ridgway]

I asked ChatGPT for suggestions of similar music to Chyp-Notic. Of the suggestions I don't like Modern Talking, Bad Boys Blue, C.C.Catch, Fancy and Joy (yuk!). Now I am listening to F.R. David on Spotify and I am liking the music. This is decent synth-pop!

There are 3 more suggestions: Savage, Ken Laszlo and Grant Miller after I am done with F.R. David...

Good idea to ask it; even one new discovery is a result.

[71 dB]

Good idea to ask it; even one new discovery is a result.

Yeah, but getting F.R. David's music on CD is almost impossible (just checked). I should have known. So,  streaming streaming streaming streaming streaming it is... 

[Pohjolas Daughter]

Kate Bush:  The Hounds of Love....a classic...brilliant...please check it out.

PD