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Iota

Quote from: Karl Henning on August 30, 2025, 12:07:45 PM


Excellent, I should check that album out!

Do you know Bowie's 'It's No Game' Part 1? Fripp is great on that and he and Bowie are dynamite together, the louder the better! It has one of my favourite endings to any track.



Karl Henning

Quote from: Iota on August 30, 2025, 01:08:23 PMExcellent, I should check that album out!

Do you know Bowie's 'It's No Game' Part 1? Fripp is great on that and he and Bowie are dynamite together, the louder the better! It has one of my favourite endings to any track.



That's an album I don't know nearly as well as I ought. What a smashing track!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: Karl Henning on August 30, 2025, 12:07:45 PM


Quote from: Robt Frpp... then at 13 I was getting into traditional jazz, then about 15, getting into Parker, Parker With Strings. I loved the Parker With Strings album, phenomenal [...] I had no idea how anyone could be that good [...] about 20, Hendrix and Sgt Pepper and Bartók string quartets and Stravinsky, and my great epiphany was, I was hearing all these different kinds of music, but for me they were one Music. There was no difference. It was like you have lots of different musicians speaking different dialects, but the Music is One and this was my epiphany. And I was just about to go to University to take the green estate management to take over my father's real estate firm and coming back from the Majestic Hotel one night, "A Day in the Life." I didn't know who it was and it came on the radio and suddenly at the end there's this piano chord and ... and then I couldn't go on to University in Real Estate. It had to change, and so I said to my mother and father, "Look...." So then I went on to London to unemployment and ignominy.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

hopefullytrusting

#31743
In my opinion, this is the album that most encapsulates drill as a genre: Young Pappy's 2 Cups Part 2:



If you don't know what drill is, think of a normal sentence - let's say it has 10 words in it - in drill that sentence would have 11/10 words being explicit/obscene/profane - so be prepared if you decided to dip your toe.

steve ridgway

Quote from: hopefullytrusting on August 31, 2025, 02:06:56 AMIn my opinion, this is the album that most encapsulates drill as a genre: Young Pappy's 2 Cups Part 2:



If you don't know what drill is, think of a normal sentence - let's say it has 10 words in it - in drill that sentence would have 11/10 words being explicit/obscene/profane - so be prepared if you decided to dip your toe.

LOL the Sex Pistols Bodies is nearly 50 years old now ::) .

hopefullytrusting

Quote from: steve ridgway on August 31, 2025, 04:03:50 AMLOL the Sex Pistols Bodies is nearly 50 years old now ::) .

Those are not at all comparable. For me, Bodies is more akin to metal-type lyrics, especially deathcore - like Infant Annihilator or Pig Destroyer - drill, at least for me, is very different - it is a lived (embodied) nihilistic violence - many of the drill artists end up murdered or murdering, usually before the age of 21 - Young Pappy, himself, was murdered at 20.

steve ridgway

Quote from: hopefullytrusting on August 31, 2025, 04:13:49 AMThose are not at all comparable. For me, Bodies is more akin to metal-type lyrics, especially deathcore - like Infant Annihilator or Pig Destroyer - drill, at least for me, is very different - it is a lived (embodied) nihilistic violence - many of the drill artists end up murdered or murdering, usually before the age of 21 - Young Pappy, himself, was murdered at 20.

Ah, fair enough, I didn't realise it was a way of life/death rather than just an entertaining pose. Thanks for the info.

hopefullytrusting

Quote from: steve ridgway on August 31, 2025, 04:16:28 AMAh, fair enough, I didn't realise it was a way of life/death rather than just an entertaining pose. Thanks for the info.

Yeah, ironically (or not), the only one to "escape" the life was Chief Keef. Lupe Fiasco, a true rapping legend and someone I would recommend to almost anyone, once said that "Chief Keef scares me."

One of the coolest Lupe collabs (with Sentrock, an amazing artist): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGqx0C1Hkq4
Lupe lecturing at MIT (he is a professor at Johns Hopkins): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBHRsYhYb-o

steve ridgway

Quote from: hopefullytrusting on August 31, 2025, 04:30:35 AMOne of the coolest Lupe collabs (with Sentrock, an amazing artist): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGqx0C1Hkq4

That seems a bit more upbeat ;) . I never got much into rap although quite enjoy Dälek having followed them up after coming across their collaborations with The Young Gods and Faust.

hopefullytrusting

Quote from: steve ridgway on August 31, 2025, 05:00:06 AMThat seems a bit more upbeat ;) . I never got much into rap although quite enjoy Dälek having followed them up after coming across their collaborations with The Young Gods and Faust.

Lupe is an awesome dude. On his first album he wrote a rap song about skateboarding, lol - it is pretty good.

I also get people not getting into rap. For me, I view it like country - you are either going to like or or you aren't - there really aren't any middle-ground rappers or country singers. (I am also the wrong person to ask because - my screen name is quite literal - I can always find something good in what I am listening to.)

steve ridgway

Quote from: hopefullytrusting on August 31, 2025, 05:07:31 AMI can always find something good in what I am listening to.

I must have so many things in my collection you'd love if only you knew about them >:D .

hopefullytrusting

Quote from: steve ridgway on August 31, 2025, 05:26:31 AMI must have so many things in my collection you'd love if only you knew about them >:D .

I have recently purchased all of the All Music Guide The Definitive Guide series. :)

About to discover a lot of things I never knew. :)

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Todd

Enjoyed a nice Labor Day Weekend outing at the Portland مهرجان العرب.  Heard a couple bands playing music from across the Arabic world.  The instrumentation mix was sweet, the songs most appealing.  The second act, The Occidental Tourists, were joined by some "exotic" dancers - the legitimate type - adding a bit of pep and joy.  Nice.
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

steve ridgway

Tangerine Dream - Phaedra Out-Takes


hopefullytrusting

First band I've heard in a long time where it physically hurts to listen to their music:

Pigliacci's Higher Altitudes of Mania (sick title)



Keywords tagged: death metal, punk, deathgrind, grindcore, powerviolence, Detroit

You will most definitely feel the grind and the powerviolence, lol.

Todd

The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya