Non-Classical Music Listening Thread!

[George]

[AndyD.]

Yep. I also like Easy, Still, Lady (You Bring Me Up) and Three Times a Lady.

Picked this up today and thought of you (haven't spun it yet):



1. Tooth and Nail
2. In My Dreams
3. Breaking the Chains
4. Into the Fire
5. Burning Like A Flame
6. It's Not Love
7. Alone Again
8. The Hunter
9. Kiss of Death
10. Just Got Lucky
11. Back for the Attack
12. Unchain the Night
13. Dream Warriors
14. Mr. Scary
15. Walk Away
16. Paris Is Burning

Whoa! I haven't thought of them in at least ten years. I'm not a big fan of Glam, but I like songs like It's Not Love. Jasmine loves 'em.
For me: profoundly inspired by Rainbow bootlegs from 1996: Ritchie tearing up "Mistreated".

[George]

Whoa! I haven't thought of them in at least ten years. I'm not a big fan of Glam, but I like songs like It's Not Love. Jasmine loves 'em.
For me: profoundly inspired by Rainbow bootlegs from 1996: Ritchie tearing up "Mistreated".

Funny, it's not love is my fave song by them. 

Haven't heard any of their stuff in 20 years, so it will be interesting to see how much of it still holds up.

[AndyD.]

Funny, it's not love is my fave song by them. 

Haven't heard any of their stuff in 20 years, so it will be interesting to see how much of it still holds up.

That's a cool song!

Jasmine played a video "Into the Fire" for me. Hilarious! Makeup and poodle doos oh my!

[George]

That's a cool song!

Jasmine played a video "Into the Fire" for me. Hilarious! Makeup and poodle doos oh my!

HAHA!! I am watching it now, it's like they took every possible cliche' from the genre and crammed them all into one 3:45 video. 

[Henk]

How is that? I'm not a huge fan of his later, marketed-for-rock-audiences stuff, but the reviews have been glowing.

Well, on this album again hard rocking, "violent", guitar work.

Henk

[karlhenning]

The Great Deceiver Part 1 (King Crimson live 1973-1974)

Repeating disc 1 of this . . . curiously, there are two tracks more listed on the back "cover," than actually appear on the disc (the whole disc has a running time of 1h 16' 42", so there's no question of being at all "shorted" . . . .)

The mind-blowing aspect of this, for me, is that for years the albums Larks' Tongues in Aspic, Starless & Bible Black and Red were music of the mind . . . I am staggered to find that the band realized all this music so brilliantly live.

Wasted on Providence, RI, of course ; )

[karlhenning]

Disc 2 now . . . smokin'! This is the most I have enjoyed listening to "21st Century Schizoid Man" in . . . a long time! : )

[greg]

Haven't finished this, but have listened to a few tracks. Hopefully, I'll find something good (most of his new stuff bores me).
The track Relentless is indeed so... this sounds like the most technically challenging Malmsteen song I've ever heard. This track could easily stun those who can outdo Yngwie.

[bhodges]

Over the weekend, PBS broadcast Sondheim! The Birthday Concert, filmed at Lincoln Center last spring with a starry line-up of singers and Paul Gemignani conducting the New York Philharmonic.  If not every single number was as luminous on the rebound as it seemed in person, no matter: it's still one of the best of this type of "tribute shows" I've seen in a long time. 

High points: an excellent vocal quartet in "You're Gonna Love Tomorrow," a very funny song from Follies, and Patti LuPone, Michael Cerveris and George Hearn having a field day with "A Little Priest" from Sweeney Todd.

--Bruce

[bhodges]

Sondheim: Anyone Can Whistle (Original cast) - Probably one of the oddest musicals ever created--on Broadway, ran for only 9 performances in 1964.

--Bruce

[Mirror Image]

... and later The Howard Stern Show on Sirius XM satellite radio. 

That figures. 

[AndyD.]

Haven't finished this, but have listened to a few tracks. Hopefully, I'll find something good (most of his new stuff bores me).
The track Relentless is indeed so... this sounds like the most technically challenging Malmsteen song I've ever heard. This track could easily stun those who can outdo Yngwie.

I respect that you like Yngwie, heck I really liked him 1983-1986. But Relentless the "song" is a complete recycle of everything he's ever done. There isn't a single new lick in the whole track, in fact I've heard everything in that song played by him dozens of times over the years. They're mostly technical licks, there's no melody whatsoever, nothing that can really stick in your head besides the typical "oh gee that Yngwie loves to play fast!".

As for the album, I gave it a spin, and all he did was prove that he can write songs with the same structure a million times over, the same structure that Deep Purple and Rainbow wore out in the '70s.

Yngwie was a spectacular guitar player in the '80's, but these days there are killer guitar players like Ralph Santolla, Pete Wells, Phillip Sayce, and Alex Skolnick who are all doing more interesting and inventive things, and not repeating themselves ad infinitum... ad nauseum. Shoot, that dude from Meshuggah blows away anything Yngwie's done in the past 25 years, at least he has some imagination.

[greg]

I respect that you like Yngwie, heck I really liked him 1983-1986. But Relentless the "song" is a complete recycle of everything he's ever done. There isn't a single new lick in the whole track, in fact I've heard everything in that song played by him dozens of times over the years. They're mostly technical licks, there's no melody whatsoever, nothing that can really stick in your head besides the typical "oh gee that Yngwie loves to play fast!".

As for the album, I gave it a spin, and all he did was prove that he can write songs with the same structure a million times over, the same structure that Deep Purple and Rainbow wore out in the '70s.

Yngwie was a spectacular guitar player in the '80's, but these days there are killer guitar players like Ralph Santolla, Pete Wells, Phillip Sayce, and Alex Skolnick who are all doing more interesting and inventive things, and not repeating themselves ad infinitum... ad nauseum. Shoot, that dude from Meshuggah blows away anything Yngwie's done in the past 25 years, at least he has some imagination.

I feel that way about almost all the stuff he's done after Fire and Ice (1992, which is nearly 20 years ago). I might like a couple of songs here and there (like the Concerto Suite, or some from Attack!), but it's mostly been a yawn for me (interestingly, my dad also stopped keeping track of him after Fire and Ice).


You mean Thordendal from Meshuggah? Imaginative for sure- for example, this little 2 min. solo:
http://www.youtube.com/v/aYkSb7wtj0E

Can't remember if that's on his solo project or not. Have you listened to Sol Niger Within? It's extremely experimental- seems to have very high reviews, though I still don't know what to think about it.

[AndyD.]

You mean Thordendal from Meshuggah? Imaginative for sure- for example, this little 2 min. solo:
http://www.youtube.com/v/aYkSb7wtj0E

Can't remember if that's on his solo project or not. Have you listened to Sol Niger Within? It's extremely experimental- seems to have very high reviews, though I still don't know what to think about it.

This is a very interesting video, much more than I can say for Malmsteen. I'm very curious as to Sol Niger Within, now that you mentioned it. Thank you!

I also like a little bit of Buckethead's crazy stuff!

[AndyD.]

You guys should check out Allan Holdsworth, blows these guys out of the water! Just by listening to that clip Greg posted you can tell that this Thordendal guy has been influenced by Holdsworth's pioneering legato technique & style in a BIG WAY and sounds shamefully derivative; but minus the musicality, harmonic depth & lyricism of grandmaster Holdsworth. Just hit that link and listen if you don't believe me.

Holdsworth is jaw-dropping, I still have "Metal Fatigue".

[greg]

You guys should check out Allan Holdsworth, blows these guys out of the water! Just by listening to that clip Greg posted you can tell that this Thordendal guy has been influenced by Holdsworth's pioneering legato technique & style in a BIG WAY and sounds shamefully derivative; but minus the musicality, harmonic depth & lyricism of grandmaster Holdsworth. Just hit that link and listen if you don't believe me.

Of course Holdsworth is Thordendal's biggest influence, but when you say "minus the musicality," that's only because you don't like metal and prefer jazz. Has nothing to do with "musicality."

[AndyD.]

Yea .. that about sums up his career, his Rising Force album has good compositions & playing... and it encapsulates his whole musical bag & style, he hasn't really grown or changed much since.

That slippery legato thing...everyone fron Van Halen to Vai picked up from that.

[greg]

Not true ... I actually do enjoy some "Heavy Metal" .. but I don't like players (regardless of style) that wear their influences on their sleeves in such an obvious way, they should get their own voice and stop mimicking their heroes. Who wants to go through life as a player to only have people tell you that you sound a lot like someone else?

Well, I guess you could say that about that video and about some of his solos (basically, a lot of his lead guitar). The most purely original playing of his lies in the rhythm guitar, which is their unmistakeable style that many bands try to imitate now.

[AndyD.]

Well, I guess you could say that about that video and about some of his solos (basically, a lot of his lead guitar). The most purely original playing of his lies in the rhythm guitar, which is their unmistakeable style that many bands try to imitate now.

Do you mean Yngwie's rhythm guitar? You know, I think you might be right about him being innovative there. Yngwie's lead work sounds alot like Uli Jon Roth sped up, but his rhythm guitar work on the early to mid '80's stuff was pretty darn influential. Plus, I have to give it up for Yngwie's arpeggios, the only people that were daring to go there  before him (albeit in a very restrained way) were Roth and Blackmore.

Not true ... I actually do enjoy some "Heavy Metal" .. but I don't like players (regardless of style) that wear their influences on their sleeves in such an obvious way, they should get their own voice and stop mimicking their heroes. Who wants to go through life as a player to only have people tell you that you sound a lot like someone else?

Then you probably won't like my cd or playing, James. I've been told I sound a lot like Schenker, Blackmore, and Roth. Don't mean to.