Topic: Newbies' Blush List Dozen

[Wanderer]

I like the music of the eighteenth century - or anything with a strong or interesting rhythm.

Some suggestions to get you started:

Haydn: Piano Concerto No. 11 in D, Hob. XVIII:11
Mozart: Symphony No. 38 "Prager"
Beethoven: Symphony No. 3 "Eroica"
Beethoven: Piano Concerto No. 5
Schubert: Symphony No. 9
Berlioz: Symphonie fantastique
Schumann: Piano Concerto
Brahms: Symphony No. 1
Brahms: Piano Concerto No. 1 (and No. 2)
Alkan: 12 Études dans tous les tons mineurs, op. 39
Dvořák: Symphony No. 8
Nielsen: Symphony No. 3
Medtner: Piano Concerto No. 1
Ravel: Piano Concertos (both of them)
Liszt: Piano Concerto No. 1 (and Totentanz)
Stravinsky: Three Movements from Petrouchka
Walton: Belshazzar's Feast

[Rosalba]

Some suggestions to get you started:

Haydn: Piano Concerto No. 11 in D, Hob. XVIII:11
Mozart: Symphony No. 38 "Prager"
Beethoven: Symphony No. 3 "Eroica"
Beethoven: Piano Concerto No. 5
Schubert: Symphony No. 9
Berlioz: Symphonie fantastique
Schumann: Piano Concerto
Brahms: Symphony No. 1
Brahms: Piano Concerto No. 1 (and No. 2)
Alkan: 12 Études dans tous les tons mineurs, op. 39
Dvořák: Symphony No. 8
Nielsen: Symphony No. 3
Medtner: Piano Concerto No. 1
Ravel: Piano Concertos (both of them)
Liszt: Piano Concerto No. 1 (and Totentanz)
Stravinsky: Three Movements from Petrouchka
Walton: Belshazzar's Feast

Thank you, Wanderer. The list looks very interesting - I hadn't even heard of Alkan and Medtner!!!

[pjme]

Hi, I'm an old man who likes late Romantic music and early-twentieth century "modernism" ( ca 1910 -1950). I'm interested in lesser known composers.

Possibly you may enjoy:

Ottorino Respighi:

Antiche danze ed arie - https://youtu.be/3BPloCq3ODE

""Ancient Airs and Dances is a set of three orchestral suites by Italian composer Ottorino Respighi, freely transcribed from original pieces for lute. Very sweet and harmonious.

His violinconcerto "Concerto gregoriano" is a gem : https://youtu.be/bB5KRHTPTjA

However, Respighi can make a large orchestra glitter & shine : symphonic poems Fontane di Roma, I pini di Roma, Feste romane, Vetrate di chiesa, Impressione Braziliane. Some of the movements are delicate and impressionistic, others develop into loud, verry brassy and extatic climaxes.

From Feste romane: https://youtu.be/DKdfZLgiWJ0

British composer Ralph Vaughan Williams wrote some truly wonderful music.  Try:

The lark ascending: https://youtu.be/ZR2JlDnT2l8

Fantasia on a theme by Thomas Tallis : https://youtu.be/GpwqZSp_CyM (performed and filmed in Gloucester cathedral!).

5 Mystical songs: https://youtu.be/6Wtus11fFJw

RVW'w output is large and diverse: 8 symphonies, cantatas, choral works and superb chamber music.

My favorite is symphony nr. 3 "Pastoral ": https://youtu.be/bAi65Fmbn0A

Claude Debussy: one of the great masters.

Danse sacrée et danse profane for harp and strings: https://youtu.be/G3UGewCinYw

Children's corner for piano: https://youtu.be/KVIYYQXNcVU

Iberia, for orchestra: https://youtu.be/Tg1w75c8Vc0

My compatriot Joseph Jongen is definitely lesser known, but he wrote often some quite elegant and refined music...albeit heavily influenced by Debussy.

Pièces en trio: https://youtu.be/sZBxAX8QCCk

Arthur Meulemans is a name you're unlikely to see on international concert programs ... He was an extremely prolific composer (15 symphonies, all kinds of concerti, stringquartets, choral works, Lieder, oratoria and cantatas...). Not all of his output is of the highest order, but as a youth (1910)  he already knew how to write for orchestra:

Maynight: https://youtu.be/IDfyBQSeav0

Looking forward to your comments.

Peter

[Rosalba]

^^^^ Thank you, Peter. I am working my way through the suggestions and enjoying myself very much. It will take me some time to get on to your list - which looks fab, btw -  but when I do, I will post again to tell you what I thought of each piece. 

[pjme]

Take your time!

P.

[k a rl h e nn i ng]

All right then: my “second wave,” all 18^th century.

JS Bach, Chaconne from the Partita in d minor for violin solo, BWV 1004

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/DBJPVnJ8m-Y" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/DBJPVnJ8m-Y</a>

JS Bach, Brandenburg Concerto № 4 in G, BWV 1049

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/G6hQvvhqfJo" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/G6hQvvhqfJo</a>

Haydn, Concerto for Trumpet in E^b

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/kCX_UXoHwyA" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/kCX_UXoHwyA</a>

Haydn, String Quartet in d minor, Op.76 № 2

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/yXLbPL0lnus" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/yXLbPL0lnus</a>

Mozart, Symphony № 40 in g minor, K. 550 (Ah, I see Mahlerian listed this already!)

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/wqkXqpQMk2k" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/wqkXqpQMk2k</a>

Mozart, Piano Concerto № 21 in C, K. 467

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/i2uYb6bMKyI" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/i2uYb6bMKyI</a>

Mozart, Clarinet Quintet in A, K. 581

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/_8fX1LmqG8s" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/_8fX1LmqG8s</a>

Beethoven, Piano Sonata № 8 in c minor, Op.13, “Pathétique” (Most of the must-know Beethoven dates from the 19^th century, of course; but this celebrated Sonata fits under the wire.)

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/qO8yfBLNVjU" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/qO8yfBLNVjU</a>

François Couperin, Ordre 21^ème de clavecin in E minor

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/uoYS-Ma6OHM" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/uoYS-Ma6OHM</a>

Zelenka, Missa votiva ZWV 18

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/RCL2CWQaH4A" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/RCL2CWQaH4A</a>

Domenico Scarlatti, Sonata in d minor, K. 9

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/OwgxZ9Hf9kM" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/OwgxZ9Hf9kM</a>

Gluck, Iphigénie en Tauride

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/q9wcmljqlKM" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/q9wcmljqlKM</a>

[Spineur]

Kark certainly knows his classics.  I endorse completely his choices !  One cannot stress enough the importance of Bach Chaconne for solo violin as it inspired a number of famous composer through the 19th and 20th century to write their own transcription for the piano.  The most famous one is Busoni's which you can compare to the original here

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/kFCpFg6mjc4" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/kFCpFg6mjc4</a>

The most famous melodie that Gluck wrote is from Orphée et Euridice, which did inspire a number of composers to write their own transcription.  Here is the one that Giovanni Sgambati wrote which capture fantastically well the beauty of this piece

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/q9FScP9GqlQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/q9FScP9GqlQ</a>

[North Star]

Monteverdi - Zefiro torna
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/e6tJWY2Vaz4" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/e6tJWY2Vaz4</a>

Pergolesi - Stabat Mater
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/9a5wF5e7QiE" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/9a5wF5e7QiE</a>

Rameau - Suite in G major
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/RAMX6ofEHtw" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/RAMX6ofEHtw</a>

Biber - Violin Sonata No. 3 in F major
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/Dl9371sYxXo" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/Dl9371sYxXo</a>

Corelli - Violin Sonata Op. 5 No. 12
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/wiZjALaEb1M" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/wiZjALaEb1M</a>

Beethoven - Sonata for Violin & Piano No. 9
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/mUWcyDEvsYA" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/mUWcyDEvsYA</a>

Rakhmaninov - Corelli Variations (the theme isn't actually by Corelli - La Follia is a much older tune and a popular choice for o
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/vZTSzvcW9q8" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/vZTSzvcW9q8</a>

Albéniz - Iberia
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/ShXNe4kc6M8" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/ShXNe4kc6M8</a>

Ravel - Tombeau de Couperin
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/Wz165MCij6c" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/Wz165MCij6c</a>

Sibelius - The Tempest (highlights)
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/D4EsO47POQw" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/D4EsO47POQw</a>

Bartók - Dance Suite
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/IBwmZSKaI0o" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/IBwmZSKaI0o</a>

Pärt - Fratres
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/RNVoZVFpW58" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/RNVoZVFpW58</a>

[k a rl h e nn i ng]

Thumbs up, Spineur & Karlo!

[Spineur]

Thumbs up, Spineur & Karlo!

Rosalba is getting spoiled !  I have to say that youtube is a fantastic library, but boy, is the sound awfull.

[k a rl h e nn i ng]

Rosalba is getting spoiled !  I have to say that youtube is a fantastic library, but boy, is the sound awfull.

Even at best, rather a distance from ideal 

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[pjme]

Don't forget Tsjaikovsky.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/rIGyCuZ9V-w" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/rIGyCuZ9V-w</a>

[Rosalba]

Rosalba is getting spoiled !...

I certainly am. Wow! - Thanks, Karl, Spineur & North Star - also Peter. You are very kind.
This should keep me busy for quite a while...

[Rosalba]

Even at best, rather a distance from ideal 

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True, no doubt, but I'm not enough of a connoisseur (or not yet! ) for this to matter too much...
Very grateful to YouTube as it really is a short cut - and if I like something, I can always buy a cd (and ask you all for recommendations.)

Thanks, everyone.

[k a rl h e nn i ng]

True in both considerations:  YouTube is a wonderful initial reference resource, but . . . less than adequate as a musical experience.

[Monsieur Croche]

These are all "very well known" works from the last century.
Be not afraid.  I imagine you might well enjoy them ;-)

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/kt5Eq317bX8" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/kt5Eq317bX8</a>

This for Petrushka but the later neoclassical style ballet, Orpheus, though in a very different style, is, imo, quite beautiful
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/cv-BOJLQMlc" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/cv-BOJLQMlc</a>

A large-scale work for Chorus and large orchestra...
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/3wyftO6flX4" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/3wyftO6flX4</a>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/Ti_jRkf6NYA" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/Ti_jRkf6NYA</a>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/bETU-8qa_g0" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/bETU-8qa_g0</a>

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/yRQw85LdRbI" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/yRQw85LdRbI</a>

Wishing you the most happy and many adventurous musical explorations...


Best regards.

[Rosalba]

Thank you, Monsieur Croche.

[Monsieur Croche]

Thank you, Monsieur Croche.

You are welcome... I am sure that goes as well for all who have recommended pieces to you.

I recommend making a playlist of them all and then listening at your leisure. 

If something does not strike you as interesting, keep it, but move on to something else. 
There is always going back to any one piece later, and listening, casual or with full concentrated attention, either way, takes time.

I think you've already seen that if you have a particular interest or taste of the moment, that asking more about that piece, period or composer here will yield a number of well-directed responses.

Already you can see the variety of what people favor, tend to think of to recommend.  This site has a great, knowledgeable, friendly -- and 'mostly harmless' -- membership.  Enjoy the music, and your newfound GMG colleagues.


Best regards.

[Rosalba]

Delighted to help!...
[/flash]

Thanks, Karl - I've just polished off your listening list - started with yours because it was most convenient, but will now move back on to Mahlerian's links.

I knew some already - The Seasons and The Water Music - which are fab, and lovely to listen to again.

Surprise pick for me was the Schubert, "Der Leiermann" (from Die Winterreise) - I didn't think I liked that sort of song, but his voice was so beautiful and the musical accompaniment very evocative.

Hope you're having a nice day.

[k a rl h e nn i ng]

You, as well!