GMG's Greatest Concertos Poll of 2017

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Christo

Quote from: marvinbrown on September 16, 2017, 09:42:00 AMI must be the only member here who believes that Saint-saens 2nd and 5th (Egyptian) piano concertos are the best piano concertos of the romantic era fullstop!

   nobodys mentioned them...
  marvin
I didn't mention any romantic concerto, but among them Saint-Saëns' Egyptian is one of my absolute favourites; another is his late Morceau de concert for harp and orchestra
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

Mahlerian

#61
Quote from: Florestan on September 16, 2017, 10:14:14 AM
Somebody had to do it*

10 pts - Mozart - Piano Concerto No. 9 "Jenamy" ("Jeunehomme") in E-flat major, K. 271
09 pts - Mozart - Concerto for Flute, Harp, and Orchestra in C major, K. 299/297c
08 pts - Mozart - Violin Concerto No.4 in D major, K.218
07 pts - Mozart - Clarinet Concerto in A major, K.622
06 pts - Haydn - Trumpet Concerto in E-flat major, Hob.VIIe:1
05 pts - Handel - Organ Concerto in G minor op. 7 No 5
04 pts - Boccherini - Cello Concerto in D major, G. 479
03 pts - Vivaldi - Flute Concerto in D major, RV 428 "Il gardellino"
02 pts - Mercadante - Flute Concerto No. 2 in E minor, Op. 57
01 pts - Somervell - Violin Concerto in G minor

* ie, trying in vain to revert the balance from doom & gloom, dark & bark to light & bright, sunny & funny! You know, ladies and gentlemen, humor, laughter and merriment are just as humane and legitimate as tragedy, weep and mourning.  :laugh:

Well, I think we're the only two who've voted for Mozart's early masterpiece.

Whoops, I forgot AMW's all-Mozart vote.  Richly deserved, at that.
"l do not consider my music as atonal, but rather as non-tonal. I feel the unity of all keys. Atonal music by modern composers admits of no key at all, no feeling of any definite center." - Arnold Schoenberg

Florestan

Quote from: Mahlerian on September 16, 2017, 10:31:37 AM
Well, I think we're the only two who've voted for Mozart's early masterpiece.

True, but una hirundo non facit ver. Compare everything else we've voted for.  ;D :P
"Great music is that which penetrates the ear with facility and leaves the memory with difficulty. Magical music never leaves the memory." — Thomas Beecham

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Ken B

Quote from: Mahlerian on September 16, 2017, 10:31:37 AM
Well, I think we're the only two who've voted for Mozart's early masterpiece.

Whoops, I forgot AMW's all-Mozart vote.  Richly deserved, at that.
The problem with Mozart is that there isn't one head and shoulders above the others. They are only head and shoulders (and navel) above the Doom And Gloom brigade.

Mahlerian

Quote from: Florestan on September 16, 2017, 10:38:33 AM
True, but una hirundo non facit ver. Compare everything else we've voted for.  ;D :P

What about them?  I don't consider any of the pieces on my list as representing doom and gloom.  Some of them have dark moments, like the Mozart on top of my list, but none of them are pessimistic.
"l do not consider my music as atonal, but rather as non-tonal. I feel the unity of all keys. Atonal music by modern composers admits of no key at all, no feeling of any definite center." - Arnold Schoenberg

ritter

#66
Here goes... :)

Beethoven PC No. 4 in G major op. 38 (10 points)
Ravel Concerto for the Left Hand (9 points)
Mozart VC No. 3 in G major K216 (8 points)
Schoenberg PC op. 42 (7 points)
Carter Oboe Concerto (6 points)
Maderna VC (5 points)
Busoni PC in C major op. 39 (4 points)
Ginastera Harp Concerto(3 points)
Walton Viola Concerto (2 points)
Falla Noches en los jardines de España (1 point)



amw

Quote from: Florestan on September 16, 2017, 10:14:14 AM
10 pts - Mozart - Piano Concerto No. 9 "Jenamy"
just noting my appreciation of the correct dedicatee's name in this post (also, good list)

Wanderer

I share the concerns, too many great works are left out. An insurrection against the arbitrary 10 limit and an expanded vote for 20 or 30 works might be in order.  >:D
As is evident, "top-10" is far too restrictive, and really only suitable to pop charts and, concerning classical music, people who don't really listen to, like or are familiar with classical like we all here are.


Or else, you know, accept "the rulez" and stop whining.  $:)  ;)  :o

Florestan

Quote from: Ken B on September 16, 2017, 10:58:05 AM
The problem with Mozart is that there isn't one head and shoulders above the others. They are only head and shoulders (and navel) above the Doom And Gloom brigade.

Hah!  >:D ;D :P
"Great music is that which penetrates the ear with facility and leaves the memory with difficulty. Magical music never leaves the memory." — Thomas Beecham

Wanderer

Über-cool lists, Andrei and Rafael8)

Beethoven 4 for the win!

Florestan

Quote from: Wanderer on September 16, 2017, 11:18:43 AM
As is evident, "top-10" is far too restrictive, and really only suitable to pop charts

Like the Eurovision of Classical Music Concertos --- ten points go to... Lithuania!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

"Great music is that which penetrates the ear with facility and leaves the memory with difficulty. Magical music never leaves the memory." — Thomas Beecham

Florestan

"Great music is that which penetrates the ear with facility and leaves the memory with difficulty. Magical music never leaves the memory." — Thomas Beecham

Florestan

Quote from: Mahlerian on September 16, 2017, 11:12:05 AM
What about them?  I don't consider any of the pieces on my list as representing doom and gloom.  Some of them have dark moments, like the Mozart on top of my list, but none of them are pessimistic.

I hope you'll give me that Vivaldi or Boccherini have a diferent way of not being pessimistic than Schoenberg or Berg.
"Great music is that which penetrates the ear with facility and leaves the memory with difficulty. Magical music never leaves the memory." — Thomas Beecham

Mahlerian

Quote from: Florestan on September 16, 2017, 11:28:48 AM
I hope you'll give me that Vivaldi or Boccherini have a diferent way of not being pessimistic than Schoenberg or Berg.

Sure.  But Schoenberg and Berg are closer to Mozart in the range and kind of expression than Mozart is to Vivaldi or Boccherini.
"l do not consider my music as atonal, but rather as non-tonal. I feel the unity of all keys. Atonal music by modern composers admits of no key at all, no feeling of any definite center." - Arnold Schoenberg

Ken B

Quote from: Wanderer on September 16, 2017, 11:23:12 AM
Über-cool lists, Andrei and Rafael8)

Beethoven 4 for the win!

That was my top pick. Andrei can still change his vote!

I kept one spot in reserve. So Monkey Greg I cast a 1 point vote for Walton Viola

kyjo

Quote from: marvinbrown on September 16, 2017, 09:42:00 AM

  I must be the only member here who believes that Saint-saens 2nd and 5th (Egyptian) piano concertos are the best piano concertos of the romantic era fullstop!


   nobodys mentioned them...
  marvin

I love all the Saint-Saëns piano concertos nearly equally. Such tuneful, uplifting, and inventive works.
"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is not enough for music" - Sergei Rachmaninoff

ritter

Quote from: Wanderer on September 16, 2017, 11:23:12 AM
Über-cool lists, Andrei and Rafael8)
Thanks! Your Skalkottas could easily have been on my list as well... ;)
N.B.: I changed the Ginastera from his VC to the Harp Concerto, which I actually like even more... :)
Quote from: Ken B on September 16, 2017, 11:35:47 AM
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I kept one spot in reserve. So Monkey Greg I cast a 1 point vote for Walton Viola
Go, Walton, go!!!  :) That last movement of the Viola Concerto, allegro moderato, is quite something!

Florestan

Quote from: Mahlerian on September 16, 2017, 11:33:46 AM
Schoenberg and Berg are closer to Mozart in the range and kind of expression than Mozart is to Vivaldi or Boccherini.

I respectfully beg to differ. Ceteris paribus, the range and kind of expression is the same in all five cases.
"Great music is that which penetrates the ear with facility and leaves the memory with difficulty. Magical music never leaves the memory." — Thomas Beecham

Florestan

#79
Quote from: Ken B on September 16, 2017, 11:35:47 AM
Andrei can still change his vote!

Given the context I won't, not even at a gunpoint!

Let me clearly and proudly come out of the closet: Mozart über alles!
"Great music is that which penetrates the ear with facility and leaves the memory with difficulty. Magical music never leaves the memory." — Thomas Beecham