Top 10 Favorite Cello Sonatas

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Der lächelnde Schatten

Quote from: foxandpeng on June 11, 2025, 01:55:43 PMToo plinky plonky.

Hmmm...that's an interesting take. For me, it's one of my favorite instruments. The harmonic/melodic capabilities are simply incredible and, in the right hands, it really can be a life-changing experience.
"To send light into the darkness of men's hearts - such is the duty of the artist." ― Robert Schumann

foxandpeng

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Quote from: Der lächelnde Schatten on June 11, 2025, 01:58:13 PMHmmm...that's an interesting take. For me, it's one of my favorite instruments. The harmonic/melodic capabilities are simply incredible and, in the right hands, it really can be a life-changing experience.

Predictably, Rach 2 and 3, are doable. And Henze's PC 2. There must be so much I am missing out of stubbornness.
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Der lächelnde Schatten

Quote from: foxandpeng on June 11, 2025, 01:59:40 PMPredictably, Rach 2 and 3, are doable. And Henze's PC 2. There must be so much I am missing out of stubbornness.

Yeah, there's so much incredible piano literature out there that it really will make one's head spin. But I've got to ask of you, please give a listen to this slow movement from Braunfel's Piano Concerto:


This particular Adagio is so emotionally moving for me and I hope it touches you as well.
"To send light into the darkness of men's hearts - such is the duty of the artist." ― Robert Schumann

Mandryka

Quote from: foxandpeng on June 11, 2025, 01:47:45 PMSonatas remain an unexplored mystery for me, as pianos seem to occupy a large element in so many. My ignorance, no doubt.

Here's one with your name written all over it

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foxandpeng

Quote from: Mandryka on June 12, 2025, 01:43:04 AMHere's one with your name written all over it


I shall enter in with interest!
"A quiet secluded life in the country, with the possibility of being useful to people ... then work which one hopes may be of some use; then rest, nature, books, music, love for one's neighbour — such is my idea of happiness"

Tolstoy

Kalevala

Kodaly's Sonata for Solo Cello is probably my favorite.

K

Der lächelnde Schatten

@foxandpeng this also has your name written all over it, which I happen to like more than the Ravel:

"To send light into the darkness of men's hearts - such is the duty of the artist." ― Robert Schumann

Mandryka

Quote from: foxandpeng on June 12, 2025, 03:04:28 AMI shall enter in with interest!

It's rainin' cello sonatas without a piano. Gubaidulina's Rejoice

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kyjo

Quote from: Mandryka on June 10, 2025, 11:56:07 PMStrange, but I think the only cello sonata I care about at the moment is the Koechlin.

Sounds like someone needs to listen to more cello sonatas! ;) The Koechlin sonata is a fine, compact work in his typically singular, otherworldly style. It would make a nice substitute on recital programs for the ubiquitous Debussy Sonata, which is a similar length.
"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is not enough for music" - Sergei Rachmaninoff

kyjo

Quote from: Roasted Swan on June 11, 2025, 12:39:20 AMJust listened to this new disc;



I can't say that previously the 3 Bax "sonatas" (inverted commas because one is a sonatina and another a legend-sonata) have struck me that strongly but I really enjoyed all three here.  Not making any "masterpiece" claims but certainly typical of the composer and well worth hearing.

Agreed - the cello sonatas aren't quite top-drawer Bax but they should be heard by enthusiasts of the composer and the cello (there are far more of the former category on this forum, it seems ;)). The Legend-Sonata has a particularly wonderful, almost Rachmaninoffian tune in the last movement!
"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is not enough for music" - Sergei Rachmaninoff

kyjo

Quote from: foxandpeng on June 11, 2025, 01:55:43 PMToo plinky plonky.

To each their own, but I'm sure glad I don't have an aversion to the piano as an instrument! There's so much wonderful repertoire written for it, from concerti to solo works, and scores of chamber duos/trios/quartets/quintets etc. I also love the color it provides as an orchestral instrument!
"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is not enough for music" - Sergei Rachmaninoff

kyjo

Quote from: Symphonic Addict on June 11, 2025, 09:36:32 AMGinastera
Sallinen
Ornstein 1
Hindemith op. 11-3
Martinu 2
Beethoven op. 5-2
Saint-Saëns 2
Schnittke 1
Herzogenberg 1
Grieg


Honorable mentions

Kabelac
Enescu 1
Tcherepnin 1
Casella 2
Röntgen 2


Excellent choices all! I don't believe I've ever heard Sallinen's sonata, actually; though I do know his Cello Concerto which is superb. Regarding Saint-Saëns, I would opt for his stormy, dramatic 1st cello sonata over his 2nd. The 2nd is an interesting work from a structural point of view (especially the scherzo which doubles as a theme-and-variations, a feature also employed by Taneyev in his Piano Trio), but I find it to be one of his weaker works melodically. (Yeah, I know I need to stop making melody the prime consideration in my enjoyment of a work. :laugh:) Of course, it's still by Saint-Saëns who's one of my favorite composers, so I still enjoy it well enough. :)
"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is not enough for music" - Sergei Rachmaninoff

kyjo

Quote from: Der lächelnde Schatten on June 11, 2025, 01:30:50 PMToday's picks --- no particular order:

Debussy: Cello Sonata
Shostakovich: Cello Sonata in D minor, Op. 40
Brahms: Cello Sonata No. 2 in F major, Op. 99
Carter: Cello Sonata
Britten: Cello Sonata, Op. 65
Enescu: Cello Sonata in C major, Op. 26/2
Fauré: Cello Sonata No. 2 in G minor, Op. 117
Barber: Cello Sonata, Op. 6
Rachmaninov: Cello Sonata in G minor, Op. 19
Chopin: Cello Sonata in G minor, Op. 65

A fine list, John! I would've definitely included Britten, Chopin, and Fauré sonatas had I extended my list to 25. ;) The Carter is certainly one of my favorite works of his - being an earlier work it's certainly more approachable than his later stuff, but it's still thoroughly individual and cerebral (in a good way). The Enescu will take a few more listens for me to fully assimilate, but I can attest that it's a prime product of his mysterious, complex, and often elusive mature style.
"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is not enough for music" - Sergei Rachmaninoff

Mandryka

Quote from: kyjo on June 12, 2025, 10:53:34 AMSounds like someone needs to listen to more cello sonatas! ;) The Koechlin sonata is a fine, compact work in his typically singular, otherworldly style. It would make a nice substitute on recital programs for the ubiquitous Debussy Sonata, which is a similar length.

I remember hearing Sol Gabetta play the second Mendelssohn sonata with Bertrand Chamayou - I thought it was excellent.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Kalevala

Quote from: foxandpeng on June 11, 2025, 01:59:40 PMPredictably, Rach 2 and 3, are doable. And Henze's PC 2. There must be so much I am missing out of stubbornness.
Take a deep breath and reconsider the piano.  You can do it...little by little.  Debussy?  Chopin?  Mozart?  :)

K

foxandpeng

Quote from: Kalevala on June 12, 2025, 02:19:55 PMTake a deep breath and reconsider the piano.  You can do it...little by little.  Debussy?  Chopin?  Mozart?  :)

K

None of the above 🙂
"A quiet secluded life in the country, with the possibility of being useful to people ... then work which one hopes may be of some use; then rest, nature, books, music, love for one's neighbour — such is my idea of happiness"

Tolstoy

Kalevala


foxandpeng

Quote from: Kalevala on June 12, 2025, 03:05:34 PMRavel, Satie, Rach or Prokofiev?

K

Again, only the Rach 2 and 3. After 30 years, I'm probably not going to change preference too much, I think 🙂
"A quiet secluded life in the country, with the possibility of being useful to people ... then work which one hopes may be of some use; then rest, nature, books, music, love for one's neighbour — such is my idea of happiness"

Tolstoy

foxandpeng

Quote from: Mandryka on June 12, 2025, 01:43:04 AMHere's one with your name written all over it


You are a naughty boy.
"A quiet secluded life in the country, with the possibility of being useful to people ... then work which one hopes may be of some use; then rest, nature, books, music, love for one's neighbour — such is my idea of happiness"

Tolstoy

foxandpeng

Quote from: Der lächelnde Schatten on June 12, 2025, 06:56:02 AM@foxandpeng this also has your name written all over it, which I happen to like more than the Ravel:


This is much better, of course.
"A quiet secluded life in the country, with the possibility of being useful to people ... then work which one hopes may be of some use; then rest, nature, books, music, love for one's neighbour — such is my idea of happiness"

Tolstoy