What are You?

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What are You?

Proletarian
2 (10%)
Lower Middle Class
5 (25%)
Higher Middle Class
8 (40%)
Bourgeois
1 (5%)
Aristocrat
0 (0%)
Asshole
4 (20%)
Stinking rich
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 18

Florestan

#20
Quote from: Brian on June 01, 2021, 09:39:35 AM
Interesting, what you Europeans call a "Champagne socialist" we Americans call a "limousine liberal." Though Champagne drinking is surely more common than limousine riding!

Well, yes --- and this shows that Socialism proper is much more commonly accepted in Europe than in the USA.  :D

Look, guys, let me tell you this. I don't identify as a Socialist at all. I identify myself as a Liberal in the strict Romanian tradition --- which would translate roughly as a Christian-Democrat in Germany and Italy and as a centrist (possibly slightly left-wing) Conservative in the USA. Now, the husband of my paternal aunt is Spanish; he has been a card-carrying Socialist since 1970s (Franco time) until recently --- yet when I told him that, in case of conflict between liberty or equality I'm on principle on the side of liberty, he agreed wholeheartedly. You tell me, dear friends: is he a closet Liberal or am I a closet Socialist? (I tend to the former).
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

DaveF

Quote from: vandermolen on June 01, 2021, 08:55:53 AM
Champagne Socialist definitely!

;D

Me too - except I can't afford champagne.  Prosecco Socialist.
"All the world is birthday cake" - George Harrison

Holden

Some would say I'm the last choice on the list......
Cheers

Holden

vandermolen

Quote from: DaveF on June 01, 2021, 12:19:15 PM
Me too - except I can't afford champagne.  Prosecco Socialist.
Yes, I can't afford it either!
;D
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

vandermolen

Quote from: Florestan on June 01, 2021, 09:41:59 AM
Don't get me wrong, Jeffrey, your daughter is a very classy lady which I'd be honored to meet --- but politically I'd rather take a sincere, committed and poor-as-a-church-mouse Socialist / Communist over her "Socialism".

;D
Haha - I agree with you Andrei! Despite once attending the Henley Regatta she is not really a Champagne Socialist and has worked for MSF in Eastern Ukraine and a disability charity in India - probably I am more of a CS than she is.  :)
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

DaveF

Quote from: Brian on June 01, 2021, 09:39:35 AM
Interesting, what you Europeans call a "Champagne socialist" we Americans call a "limousine liberal." Though Champagne drinking is surely more common than limousine riding!

After posting last night I came across another term for it - Bollinger Bolshevik.
"All the world is birthday cake" - George Harrison

SimonNZ

Cheapest bottom shelf merlot socialist.

So I voted proletarian.

vandermolen

Quote from: DaveF on June 01, 2021, 11:27:35 PM
After posting last night I came across another term for it - Bollinger Bolshevik.
That's great!

From online Oxford Reference:

Bollinger Bolshevism
An alternative and somewhat more extreme term for champagne socialism (Bollinger is a particularly distinguished and expensive Champagne marque; see ...
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

ritter

I don't see "stinking rich" among the choices... ::)

Wanderer

Quote from: ritter on June 02, 2021, 03:22:04 AM
I don't see "stinking rich" among the choices... ::)

Maybe because pecunia non olet. 😉

Karl Henning

Quote from: Florestan on June 01, 2021, 09:41:59 AM
Don't get me wrong, Jeffrey, your daughter is a very classy lady which I'd be honored to meet --- but politically I'd rather take a sincere, committed and poor-as-a-church-mouse Socialist / Communist over her "Socialism".

;D

Poverty is indeed best left to church mice.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Florestan

Quote from: ritter on June 02, 2021, 03:22:04 AM
I don't see "stinking rich" among the choices... ::)

Fixed.
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

ritter

Quote from: Florestan on June 03, 2021, 04:21:24 AM
Fixed.
Good! Let's see if the option gets a vote (it won't be mine, unfortunately  ;).

Good day to you, Andrei.

steve ridgway

As I never learnt Latin at school, lower middle class.

Roasted Swan

Once on a national tour of Blood Brothers years ago, one of the cast said to me that "you and your kind will be first against the wall come the revolution".  To this day I have no idea what "my kind" was or whether it was a wider comment on the quality (or lack of) in my violin playing.

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: vandermolen on June 01, 2021, 09:26:24 AM
My daughter put it as her 'Facebook status' a few years ago after I accused her of being one when, despite being deeply concerned with social/political injustice, she attended the 'Henley Regatta' - a very posh event on the Thames.


I don't know about those pink pants, Jeffrey.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

prémont

Quote from: ritter on June 02, 2021, 03:22:04 AM
I don't see "stinking rich" among the choices... ::)

I suppose it is synonymous with Aristocrat.
Reality trumps our fantasy far beyond imagination.

Florestan

#37
Quote from: (: premont :) on June 06, 2021, 06:30:58 AM
I suppose it is synonymous with Aristocrat.

Why, of course: Jeff von Bezos, Bill de Gates, Warren Duke of Buffett...  :D
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy